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Flux.
- Episodes
- 23
- First seen
- 009 SEP 01 2024
- Last seen
- 079 AUG 23 2026
- Spoken mentions
- 177
The Fast Hours take
Rory and Drew use Flux mainly as a measuring stick for Midjourney, and Midjourney usually wins: hosts couldn't get a convincing brick wall or match Midjourney's 'pop' out of it (Ep. 33, 34), and Rory named a recurring 'flux face' — a too-sterile, low-detail look (Ep. 56). Flux's edge is technical: LoRA fine-tuning for 95-99% accurate product renders (Ep. 14), Kontext's multi-image consistency (Ep. 42) — enough that Rory would switch if it got better, but for now 'Midjourney has my creative heart' (Ep. 9).
Into it 8Mixed 5 Not sold 5Discussed 5 oldest → newest
Receipts about Flux
“It's the only tool that can outpaint accurately … if I have a square and I need to turn it into three by two, Photoshop doesn't do the trick, Firefly doesn't do the trick, Flux doesn't do the trick.”
“That's a little hack for anyone using Nano, C.Dream, or Flux Context — if you want to use a brush, you have to do it externally. I'll do it in the compositor or the painter node.”
“You can see the flux in here by the faces, right? There's a flux face that I like to call out a lot of times.”
“That might be on the thumbnail, ladies and gentlemen. Go flux yourself.”
“Flux, to me, is flat. I don't like Flux because it looks flat. There's no depth.”
“I hate it. This is where I'd love to take it in the Midjourney and just edit it. But why is that so easy in Midjourney and so hard everywhere else? It's not like there's not one million data images with a brick wall.”
Every episode with Flux
- Episode 79 AUG 23 2026 AI Workflows Brands Actually Pay Five Figures For Tested as one of several fast image models for pixel-icon generation during the live build. Discussed
- Episode 77 AUG 09 2026 How to Build an AI Universe That Compounds Flux 1, Flux 3 · His Gorbo's Swim Hole style still runs on a custom Flux 1 model; Flux 3 adds retro dialogue clips cheaply. Into it
- Episode 75 JUL 26 2026 How to Make AI Images That Don’t Scream “I Used AI” Named alongside Nano Banana and GPT Image as one of the strong, if generic, generalist image models. Discussed
- Episode 72 JUL 04 2026 Taste Isn't the AI Moat You Think It Is Named as the one open model currently viable enough to fine-tune for a brand's custom aesthetic. Discussed
- Episode 58 DEC 03 2025 Midjourney Edit Models + Nano Banana Pro: Eating Lunches in the Upside Down Flux 2 · Name-checked as another model optimized for JSON-style prompting, giving hyper-precise control like Nano Banana. Into it
- Episode 56 NOV 16 2025 Go Flux Yourself: Midjourney Still Runs the Realism Game Powers Grok Imagine's output; Rory calls out 'flux face,' a too-sterile, low-background-detail look versus Midjourney. Not sold
- Episode 53 OCT 26 2025 Cracking Midjourney’s Style Explorer + Freepik’s Rise + Higgsfield Prompt Hack 1.1 · One of the models fanned a single template prompt through in Weavy; ran 'really fast' Into it
- Episode 49 AUG 31 2025 Midjourney Token Bashing, Nano Banana, and Weavy with Marco Isle Rory calls it 'flat' with no depth, weaker than Nano Banana for reference-image edits Not sold
- Episode 43 JUN 15 2025 Midjourney Lawsuit, Video Leaks, and New --SRef System Kontext · Flux Kontext compared to Runway References; Runway keeps closer reference detail, Flux can overdo texture Mixed
- Episode 42 JUN 09 2025 Can Midjourney Actually Compete in Video? +Sref & Monetization Talk Kontext · Named alongside Runway References, GPT, and Gemini as tools that already solve multi-image consistency Into it
- Episode 41 JUN 01 2025 Midjourney Deep Hours: Existential Dread But Make It Funny Same comparison: solid results but less fine detail than Midjourney on a dark, textured prompt Not sold
- Episode 34 MAR 17 2025 Letting AI Cook & The Final Countdown for v7 Feat. Allar Haltsonen Rory couldn't get a convincingly chipped/worn brick-wall texture out of it, unlike Midjourney Mixed
- Episode 33 MAR 09 2025 Midjourney After Dark—Organized Chaos & Wabi-Sabi Rory says it's sometimes too coherent and loses the "pop" he gets from Midjourney's looser interpretation Mixed
- Episode 32 MAR 07 2025 Midjourney Questions Answered Floated as Midjourney's likely video/API partner; prompts in more natural language than Midjourney Discussed
- Episode 31 FEB 16 2025 Midjourney: New Tricks, Wild Updates, and Deep Cuts Fast and clean for consistency/LoRA-style work, but described as lacking Midjourney's "wow factor" Mixed
- Episode 28 JAN 26 2025 Midjourney Mood Boards: (Literally) Everything You Need to Know Brought up after fans ask why Midjourney doesn't look as real; both hosts say Flux isn't more photoreal either Not sold
- Episode 22 DEC 15 2024 130k YouTuber Spills Tea on Current State of Gen AI Tools Guest argues it isn't 'better' than Midjourney, just different, despite benchmarking every tool against it Discussed
- Episode 16 NOV 03 2024 Midjourney at Scale The Superside Blueprint for Teams w/ Phil Maggs (Superside) Phil calls it a 'step change' for brand-specific fine-tuning, replacing Superside's reliance on Stable Diffusion Into it
- Episode 15 OCT 27 2024 Legendary Midjourney Tokens You're (Probably) Not Using (Part 1) Rory notes his 'yearbook photo' realism trick produces similarly natural, unpolished results on both Flux and Midjourney Into it
- Episode 14 OCT 20 2024 Midjourney: The Ultimate Creative Multiplier w/ Billy Boman Base model Billy trains Flux LoRAs on for 95-99% accurate product and character renders Into it
- Overtime OCT 18 2024 Gen AI for Creators | Pulse Check: Midjourney, Runway, Minimax, Krea, Flux & More 1.1 · Praised for photorealism breakthroughs, including a fake phone-photo-filename prompting trick Into it
- Episode 11 SEP 22 2024 The Next Gen (AI) Toolkit for Creatives feat. Chris Branch Chris dismissed 'Midjourney killer' hype around its release, calling it 'a long way behind' Midjourney still Not sold
- Episode 9 SEP 01 2024 Midjourney After Dark: Video, Personalization, Editor, v7, Depth Control, Personality Survey + More Rory weighs Flux's rising quality and LoRA/API support against Midjourney's control and community Mixed
Quick answers
When did Fast Hours first talk about Flux?
Flux first came up in Episode 9, “Midjourney After Dark: Video, Personalization, Editor, v7, Depth Control, Personality Survey + More”, published September 1, 2024.
What is the latest Fast Hours episode about Flux?
The most recent is Episode 79, “AI Workflows Brands Actually Pay Five Figures For” (August 23, 2026).
How many Fast Hours episodes discuss Flux?
23 episodes so far. In the 23 we have logged in detail, Rory and Drew were into it 8 times, mixed 5, not sold 5, and simply discussed it 5.
