Ep. 57: Two Midjourney Drops in 48 Hours + Nano Banana Pro Pulls Up with a Nuke

0:00:00Cold open + Thanksgiving chaos

Play from 0:00:01 8:88:88 0:00:01 What's up everybody Midjourney Fast Hours podcast episode 57. Let's go Rory Flynn. Let's go baby. We got a lot to talk about today man. This is in true fashion, right? think last week was a down week. We had like not much. It was kind of like, let's go through Grok and some of the other things. And then here we go. Like another industry shifting week as usual.

Play from 0:00:28 8:88:88 0:00:28 So. comes at once work tools everything just drop it in your lap and here we go. Right? And right before Thanksgiving, of course, for, you know, any of the Americans that are watching right now. We all know next week is kind of like half crazy, half not crazy. It's like people try to get stuff in, even though they know you're not going to do anything on Thursday and Friday of next week. um I mean, I still do, right?

Play from 0:00:54 8:88:88 0:00:54 But for different reasons, I used to love them from the standpoint of, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to get to catch up with some things. I can spend some extra time playing, right? I get to do this and do that. With kids, that ain't the case, man. That is not the case at all. They're home, you know, school's not happening. So it's just a long extended weekend parenting, but we'll make it. And yeah, man, we're... We're also streaming live right now. Why don't you, you know, if anybody's listening to this, feel free to like, subscribe.

0:01:16Stream kickoff + why this week exploded

Play from 0:01:22 8:88:88 0:01:22 We're also going to put this on YouTube over the weekend as well. But it kind of felt like we should probably live stream a little bit too as well. I mean, the Nano stuff just dropped. We're to talk through that, Nano Pro. And then Midjourney dropped two new releases on us in the same week. I mean, we knew it was coming, but Back to Back Days was, I don't know if I was expecting that. So we're going to dive into Classic both the user profile and the style creator and we're gonna go through that live just kind of do a deep dive First reactions what we expect there and yeah, go from there, man Totally like it.

0:01:47Midjourney drops two features in two days

Play from 0:02:02 8:88:88 0:02:02 Obviously Midjourney and nano same week, big stuff. I like, you don't even know where to put your attention anymore. You know, like the Midjourney stuff, I've been really excited about the style creators to see how that was going to be rolled out. think like looking at it the first time, I was a little bit confused to be honest. I was like, what am I doing? Like, and then I realized what was going on and you know, obviously we'll go through this. It was again, yes, in true fashion.

0:02:23First reactions to Style Creator

Play from 0:02:30 8:88:88 0:02:30 I was feeling the same way actually. I like went through it two separate times and I felt like an idiot and I was like, am I not doing this right? You know what I mean? So like, let's just, let's put something in. We'll run through this together. I'm just gonna do my favorite short emoji prompt here and let's talk about what you did wrong because For me, I know I did just about everything wrong before I did it right.

Play from 0:02:58 8:88:88 0:02:58 Yeah, I was like, wait, what am I like, am I choosing multiple ones? Am I choosing like just one? And then I would keep hitting skip grid. It once I hit like, cause I was like, I didn't know that you had to then refine style. So I mean, if you want to, we should probably go through this first off. It's on the left now on your left-hand side. It says style crater in data. Is this, is this on alpha or is this on regular now too?

Play from 0:03:24 8:88:88 0:03:24 Regular. Okay. So yeah. That's there. And then you'll get this grid of, I think this is what, 18? ah No, 21. 21 images. can also, right above Select Styles, you can make the grid smaller, right? So that's the one thing. Trim it back down to 10 images. I was looking at it in this view to make it easier for myself. But apparently, the way this thing works is you have to just run through this a couple times.

Play from 0:03:52 8:88:88 0:03:52 You have to go through... few different styles that you want to like and a few different, uh, few different avenues to sort of refine your style. We'll have [name] make a guest appearance here to say hi to everyone. Yeah. Yeah. She's, she's like, yeah. You guys talking about mid-jury? me in. the must be Friday. Yeah. But there's a, so that was what first got me.

Play from 0:04:20 8:88:88 0:04:20 was like, wait, do I hit refine style now after I clicked on one or do I I mean, I was so confused because I went here, choose a prompt to refine. I'm like, OK, I think I did that right. Select your favorite style. So I'm thinking favorite means heart. So I'm going through and I'm like hitting these, right? And I'm not seeing anything change. So I'm like, OK, like. And then I'm like, OK.

Play from 0:04:45 8:88:88 0:04:45 So then I go down here and it says submit to receive a new grid. So then I'm hovering this and it says submit. And so I'm like hitting submit and I'm like going through this process for like 15, 20 minutes and I'm like, I don't think this is getting any closer to anything that I'm trying to do. And so I was like, wait a second, that's not right. Like, what am I supposed to be doing? And I went back and watched that video, that quick video that Midjourney dropped and it was like, just click it.

0:04:52How Style Creator confuses everyone at first

Play from 0:05:14 8:88:88 0:05:14 And I was like, oh, idiot, I'm an idiot. Also, it says submit to receive, I think they need to... to sort of refine it by saying, click refine style, right? Because I was hovering this and I thought this meant submit, right? And so I was just like, yeah, it took me a while to sort of like get my bearings on that. I was really, really confused. But um I think those are all the ways you can fail with this.

Play from 0:05:40 8:88:88 0:05:40 So that we covered the bases with that. But the idea is that, right? You're selecting your favorite styles that you're trying to go for whatever. Look, you're going to, and first reaction, Rory, this feels a lot like StyleTuner, bro. A lot like StyleTuner. um So, you you can select one, you can select multiple, right? But each time you're selecting these and then you're hit Refine Style and it updates your style.

Play from 0:06:08 8:88:88 0:06:08 um If you don't like any of these, to your point, you can skip this grid entirely, we get a brand new grid, right? So you're not necessarily confined to that either. um And then, you know, like, so like, let's just, let's maybe go through this. Let's just say this and this, we're gonna refine the style. This starts to generate here. And then I think I saw something from Midgern, it's like, hey, you probably need at least five to feel like a solidified output on this, uh but you could go up to 15, 20, 30, right?

0:06:18Refining styles + the 5–15 refinement rule

Play from 0:06:43 8:88:88 0:06:43 And I think probably the more that you do, the more solidified it would get. um But it was just, yeah, it was really interesting to kind of like go through that process for the first time. I didn't think it was super intuitive. And it makes me feel better that you got it wrong too, actually. Because then I'm like, what's happening on the side here? Like, what are these four images that are generating? And then I'm like, I'm trying to click on them. They can't happen. It took me like a minute to realize that it was popping up in the create. And then... And then, and I didn't want to like click over and lose my spot either.

Play from 0:07:11 8:88:88 0:07:11 So like I opened up a new tab and I'm like, okay. So this is what it would currently look like. Okay. Let's, you know, let's do something else. This is going to generate a unique style number for you, style code. So you're to get that. So that's essentially the output that you're going for here. I don't know. I'm just picking ones that I think are cool here. Do that, we'll click Refine Style again, that's four.

Play from 0:07:39 8:88:88 0:07:39 I don't know, these are kind of cool. This is this is one thing if you go back to your create page, I think everyone should should highlight or just at least know which I am happy about this feature is that each one of these new like refined. Yeah, so it's like even if it's not like you lose your progress and like it's like it wiped out if you like selected a style and it totally like bombs it. It's like, all right, I could still have like go back to what I want. You know, yeah.

0:07:40Style history, safety nets, and code tracking

Play from 0:08:05 8:88:88 0:08:05 the anxiety of fucking it up. You know what I mean? I was like, I don't know if I want to pick this one. Is this one going to mess it all up? But that's a great point. That's a great point. Because I want to play with it. I want to see what does this random style thrown in here do, which is good. And that's something that I was pretty impressed with, which I was like, OK, good thought. Because I know that's exactly what the first thing that would go through my head was.

Play from 0:08:31 8:88:88 0:08:31 If I'm going to keep doing this, it's going to keep updating in real time. I'm going to want to have some history tracking on that. I'm not going to want to just like, yeah. liked that. I think the one thing, just like with all codes though, where can I save this? I gotta create a folder for this, the ones I really like. It's gonna be hard to keep track. Yeah. I would say Smart Folder, if that's the best way to do it, you're going to use the style code as the parameter there to save in the Smart Folder.

0:08:36Eliminating style-drift anxiety

Play from 0:09:02 8:88:88 0:09:02 And then you can save your styles that way. It's just, yeah, mean, it's going to be, organization isn't my thing. It's not my thing either. So yeah, we're after either way, but yeah, I think this is super interesting. you, what are your, I mean, with you being so, like, I just remember you were so excited about style, style tuner was your baby. I don't know how deep you've gone into this yet.

0:09:25What Style Creator still gets wrong

Play from 0:09:28 8:88:88 0:09:28 Like how excited are you for this feature? Does this feel like something that you're gonna use? I would like a little bit more control, I guess, when we thought about what was going to go into this. It still feels a little bit random, like I'm just creating a mood board from random images at this point, which I'm not upset about. I think it's pretty cool that you can do this. ah and it's fun to blend, it's basically up to the curation of image sets that you get in your grid to see if you like it.

Play from 0:09:59 8:88:88 0:09:59 It's like, if I like none of them and I'm swiping through five times? And I'm just like, all right, it's not what I'm looking for. Not what I'm looking for, not what I'm looking for, not what I'm looking for. I'd like to have maybe a functionality where I could drop in an image and be like, all right, or use the search function on that some way to go through the styles and click the ones that I'm looking for, like how you can do this. not just the smart search, even smart search in the styles.

0:10:21Smart Search wish-list + missing features

Play from 0:10:24 8:88:88 0:10:24 Because this feels a little random still, and that's not a bad thing. Sometimes I'm looking for certain colors, or I'm looking for certain textures, whatever. Saying this like I've used it a million times. I've used it twice, I think. See you yesterday. are good call-outs though, man. I'm with you 100 % on those. Like if you could use this smart search in here, like let's just say you, you you used like the, little smart search, a little magnifying glass search on one of those styles and it brought up the other styles like, like in the explore page.

Play from 0:11:01 8:88:88 0:11:01 Like I would be, yeah. quickly refine within that sort of aesthetic. Yeah. Yeah, like that. sort of where my head's at with those. Because it's like right now, kind of, you know, again, this feels like S-referendum. I like it. I feel like it's also getting, the more you refine them, a little bit more tailored it's getting downstream. Like it's a little less random, so it's a little bit more like in tune with what the style already is.

0:11:29Does refinement actually improve downstream results?

Play from 0:11:29 8:88:88 0:11:29 I might be wrong on that, but that's just sort of how I was interpreting it as it moved along. Yeah, and you'll notice that I click complete tutorial here and this changed. So this is now showing these in a little bit of a larger format, says the ideal minimum, showcases your OG, blah, blah, tells you how many times you refined it. Okay. I liked OG as an original generation.

Play from 0:11:56 8:88:88 0:11:56 Okay, I liked that one. Yeah. And in true live fashion, I have to go close my door real quick. just continue on without me for one second here. just left and gauge my reaction of like, what the hell's going on. See ya. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, this is interesting. I I love that this is here.

0:12:15Style Creator verdict: fun, but who needs it?

Play from 0:12:23 8:88:88 0:12:23 I think uh to your point, I like the recommendations that you just sort of pointed out, maybe some areas that you could add that seem relatively easy or quick that would maybe dial this in, save you a little bit of time on the exploration side of it, maybe even get a little bit better curation from that standpoint. um Might knock. outside of just like the intuitiveness of like getting in here for the first time and we're just like keeping it real 100 % here.

Play from 0:12:50 8:88:88 0:12:50 mean, is, I just, I don't know how much I need this. Yeah, it's fun. Just another fun thing to do. it's fun. uh don't know if I need it. It's like, we've got style codes, we've got style explorer, uh you can blend codes. It's just kind of like, it continues to go deeper and deeper into that. I don't know. For me, I don't know. It remains to be seen how often I'll use this.

Play from 0:13:17 8:88:88 0:13:17 But I do think it's always fun to get something new. And it's just a different way to get to maybe a unique result that you could use in a project in that sense. Definitely a good way to burn some Fast Hours, just continuously refining and running through this stuff. And then also, I think we should probably also note, you have to remember if you like that code to sort of end session.

0:13:26Ending sessions + saving yourself from randomness

Play from 0:13:42 8:88:88 0:13:42 That's one thing too. That was one thing I noticed, going back in there. Yeah. And then if you want to start a new one, you got to end session. end session then? That's Well, if you don't, it's just going to keep evolving the style with all the style, like the history tracking in there. Right. So it's going to keep, if you want to start fresh, like, I'm looking for an animated style versus like a photo realistic style. Right. Like it's all going to sort of start to blend if you don't end the session.

Play from 0:14:08 8:88:88 0:14:08 Right. Like So if you leave and yeah, maybe come back and it's still open and you forget. Yeah. see over here it has your like your refinement number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. When you end session, we'll go back to OG. Yep, that's a good point, man. So that was definitely something that I noticed. Like, okay, I have to stop this. Or else, who knows what... It'd be like when I just tagged like 15 mood boards in an image to see what it'll get me, to see how random it'll be.

0:14:38Style Creator wrap-up

Play from 0:14:40 8:88:88 0:14:40 Yeah. and let's see what happens. ah So with that said, let's end this. ah Yeah, so this is what, you know, this is the screen it takes you to when you get here. I think, you know, if you haven't been in here yet, learn from us. Maybe save yourself a good 30 minutes or an hour in case you're idiots, just like us, and you do everything that you're not supposed to do before you can do what you're supposed to do. ah But yeah, this is super interesting.

Play from 0:15:08 8:88:88 0:15:08 And then, Obviously like outside of that, we also got user profiles today before. And let's jump into that dude, because I think this is super interesting. Also kind of feels like something that we've already had, but in a more visible format, you because you still had, right? Like anytime you would have liked an image or something like that, you could click into a user profile.

0:15:08Midjourney user profiles deep dive

Play from 0:15:38 8:88:88 0:15:38 and see public archives that they may have. But you didn't have the following tab, you didn't have the spotlight tab, you certainly didn't have like a dedicated page for yourself to tag social profiles, et cetera. um So this is super interesting and I would love to hear your thoughts on sort of how they executed on this with sort of how useful you think it is, how cool it is.

Play from 0:16:07 8:88:88 0:16:07 They specifically mentioned that they're not going to show you total number of followers and things like that because they want this to be less of a social format in that sort of historical regard and sort of for allow people to focus on the image generation, not follower counts, and not get into this vanity thing, which I think really stays in line with their ethos. But I'm curious to just get your thoughts on this over.

Play from 0:16:34 8:88:88 0:16:34 I was definitely one of the one of the big talking points that we had in that episode where we're like, what do we want? And I'm like, I don't want numbers. Followers. don't want it to be about like, who's doing what and like, can this be monetized in that way? Like, you know, like in some way, shape or form, the marketers start to like bleed in here. I am one. So I know that that's probably what would happen. But yeah, like I was, I was liking the fact that it's just like, okay, cool.

Play from 0:17:03 8:88:88 0:17:03 Like. You just throw in there what you want to and I can just go follow someone if I want to. And I don't have to worry about like I can just go see what Drew is throwing up there. And this is what we were talking about, like throwing up some of the stuff that would never see the light of day. Like I forgot about these stupid like isometric rock band things that I was doing. I really like them. There's no purpose to me on social media or anything that I'm doing other than I like it.

Play from 0:17:31 8:88:88 0:17:31 Like, you know what I mean? Like some stuff is so random. love this. yeah, I'm just like, all right, this is the random stuff that would never get posted. Right? So that was a, I made an edit on that one, so I figured we'd put it in. But yeah. spot on, right? So let's break this down um in terms of what functionality you have in this, right?

0:17:34Spotlight, archive, and profile curation

Play from 0:17:56 8:88:88 0:17:56 So, and how this works. So you've got a spotlight section, which you can upload anything here that you want, that you've created. This can also include, I think this can also include private things. So I run a lot of stealth. don't, I mean, I've certainly got things that will show on archive. But a lot of my stuff is stealth. And I think this part allows you to use either stealth or public.

Play from 0:18:22 8:88:88 0:18:22 So this is just like a quick hitter, maybe like what kind of images you want to generate or show off or whatever it is. Then you've got the archive section, which is that public record of images that you're generating. So I think this is super cool. um There's some interesting things within here too. So let's say you wanted to curate this a bit. You can do that. Meaning like you could drop, you could click this hamburger menu here and you can either make this private um or you can trash the image completely.

0:18:43Private vs stealth vs public image management

Play from 0:18:55 8:88:88 0:18:55 So I think like this will be interesting to see if like how people use this, but I could just say, hey, look, like I just want to trash this image. It's gone. Or I could just hit this make private and it's going to take all four of that grid generation of those images and make them all private. So all four of those will disappear. So like people could curate this a bit if they wanted to, you so this could be like, I don't know if people will or not, but like this could be something that you curate if you want to, right?

Play from 0:19:28 8:88:88 0:19:28 um And then lastly, you've got this following tab, which just keeps track of everybody that you follow, right? So uh I'll just click on this one. on there. You're the only person I'm following right now. Yeah! Keeping my circle tight. I like it, baby. um But you just click this, right? So follow, um and then what you can do from here, like when you're just on your own profile, which how you get there, by the way, is just clicking on your profile name here, bottom left.

Play from 0:20:02 8:88:88 0:20:02 So I click on that, brings me here, but I can just click random profile and it's just gonna bring up random people. um I think you can hotkey this too, yes you can. So if you press your arrows, Like you do in personalization. Well. That was one, two and three, but if you use your arrows left and right, you can navigate this too. Right, so it's kind of cool though, because I do like how it's like people can interconnect these things to like other platforms like who is this like?

Play from 0:20:31 8:88:88 0:20:31 Do I know this person like? Do I follow them on X or Instagram or something like that too? I think that's kind of interesting. did like that. Yeah. I thought that was like a nice way to like, like you can do your social thing by connecting with them on other social platforms. You know what I mean? I like the no like, wait, can you like stuff on here? Like, can you like someone's, but does that go to your favorites? Does that show up as like an engagement? you can even spotlight somebody else's image?

0:20:47Social linking + hopping across profiles

Play from 0:20:58 8:88:88 0:20:58 Is that right? Let me try that. So, add it to spotlight. if I, it does. It's almost like a retweets, yeah. Huh. I wonder if somebody gets notified of that. Probably not. So I was wondering if you like something, does it just show up in your favorites folder? Like, I didn't check that yet, actually. Okay.

Play from 0:21:24 8:88:88 0:21:24 let's try that too. If I go back to this guy and I just put a heart on this, I believe so. Let's see, moment of truth. That's right. We're... the beauty of a... Interesting. Yeah.

Play from 0:21:49 8:88:88 0:21:49 That is interesting. Is there anywhere in... is there anywhere within the profile? Like if you go back into your profiles, is there anywhere to see like likes or something like that? Let's see. Archive, following, no. No, maybe not. Interesting.

Play from 0:22:15 8:88:88 0:22:15 All right, mid-journey. Maybe. I'm gonna try this again. if I do. You give it a good old, there it is, okay. All right. wonder whether, but now it's gone again. Give it a good old refresh. Yeah, it should be.

Play from 0:22:42 8:88:88 0:22:42 I would assume that would happen. Yeah. man, any other like I don't know thoughts on that particular piece of this? I'm, you know, there's, there's a few things that is, uh, I'm like into it because again, like I don't have to worry about it. I can just have fun with it, which is to me, a good job for if majority is listening again, just like good job, like not making it like this whole sort of like rat race sort of like gamified thing here.

0:22:52Portfolio potential + what’s still missing

Play from 0:23:15 8:88:88 0:23:15 Like it's just pure, a profile or like a portfolio, which I think is also good too. You think about this as anyone who's doing this professionally, right? This is your portfolio now. You can just have Spotlight as your portfolio, and that's an easy thing to share. Now it's not like, want me download all these collections, put them somewhere, whatever. Now you can curate it little bit, and it's a little bit of show of your work, and everyone can see what you're doing.

Play from 0:23:41 8:88:88 0:23:41 If I clicked into... Look, if you clicked into some of these images, right? If you go to Following, let's just see this real quick. This is other thing. that I have to remember. can't remember if I did it or not. If you go into like, I don't know, dream Aurora and like, there, is there a prompt thing here? Like if you click on the image, does it show the full prompt? Yeah, it should. Oh, got it. Perfect. So, like, yeah, that's that to me is super useful, especially from a from a like portfolio standpoint.

Play from 0:24:12 8:88:88 0:24:12 It's like, here's what I'm doing. It's not just, you know, might be easy to suss out people that are just like, you know, car enter. Like, oh, they just got lucky with the problem. You know, you can you can see sort of the thought process behind everything. I think, you know, and there's probably, and you heard it on Office Hours too, is people just, you know, what if, you know, I wanna have things private. Well, I think that's where stealth comes in.

Play from 0:24:38 8:88:88 0:24:38 You know, you don't have to, you can control those things in spotlight, but I think if you do put stealth things on spotlight, it then becomes public, I believe. I haven't run in stealth ever, so I don't know. trade-off, but they did talk about that on office hours and it was sort of like, they were trying to explain, look, like we've always been community first in terms of like sharing, right? Like we try to just lower the barrier to gatekeeping in that sense, right?

Play from 0:25:08 8:88:88 0:25:08 Like prompts are prompts, em this is a community, but if you, at the end of the day, you don't wanna do this, I mean, I guess you don't have to, right? Like, I mean, you could go through and... not have an archive visible. You don't have to do the spotlight if you don't want to. You don't have to do this. So it's optional, right? um But I think you would at a minimum have to go through your archive and clean that up if you've ever run anything public.

Play from 0:25:35 8:88:88 0:25:35 The other um thing that I think about with the spotlight, which would be nice though, is the ability to drag and drop these things in different places versus chronological order. good idea, good point, yep. You know, just because it's like, okay, well, what if I like this and then I spotlight a bunch of things after that and I don't want it to be buried kind of thing. But. bit more portfolio-ish, too.

Play from 0:26:01 8:88:88 0:26:01 Yeah. Good point. I like that one. That's an easy one, I think, maybe. Or, like, a reorder. Something like that. And these can also be videos. I've got stills up. I think you've got stills up. These can be videos, right? um I kind of wish we would have gone through this for the first time again, because there was basically like some instructions of like, this has to be, yeah, it's gotta be in this aspect ratio and it's gotta be connected to an S or S for mood board or like a profile or something like that.

Play from 0:26:30 8:88:88 0:26:30 So yeah, man, this is super cool. mean, it's just like another way to maybe like, bring people closer together versus kind of like combing through images and then maybe you could click on a name and you see some of their stuff, but that's where it ends kind of thing. mean, now you can interconnect these social platforms, blah, blah, blah. So yeah, it's cool. I mean, I like it. Well done. Yes. Simple. A little bit easier to understand than the Style Creator, but...

Play from 0:27:01 8:88:88 0:27:01 Sure, the Style Creator gets some upgrades, as other things have before, too. I mean, it's also nice to look at more than the one thing about Style Creator, like, the personalization preferences. It's nice to look at 10 to 15 or to 20, whatever that number is, instead of 2. It's like, much more... To me, much more effective. Like then, like, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.

0:27:22The V8 conversation: what MJ still owes creators

Play from 0:27:27 8:88:88 0:27:27 So like much better. But yeah, we'll see where everything goes. I'm just kind of like really tuned in for version eight because we got a lot. We got a lot to catch up on here, guys. With now. a lot dude. um I. too. Like, gotta have something. Gotta have something like this.

Play from 0:27:53 8:88:88 0:27:53 Doesn't have to be to that capability. But it's gotta be something. You know, this just continues to get, go back to that point that we were talking about where. these different platforms just are going in their own separate lanes in different directions, right? Like that split, that niche has sort of started to take place. I mean, it started a long time ago um with maybe CREA leading the way, like being that first piece, but it was just like, now you're starting to see all these different sort of niche directions here.

Play from 0:28:27 8:88:88 0:28:27 I'm curious to see what Midjourney does with V8 beyond just the, hey, the quality. Hey, the coherence, you know? um You know, they got a talented team over there. I love the folks over there. just, I, that's why we have this show, man. I mean, we're obviously mid-journey uh super fans and I want them to win and I love the platform. So I'm really, really hyped for V8 and uh have high expectations at the same time.

Play from 0:28:56 8:88:88 0:28:56 Yeah, that's it. mean, like, look, that's... The quality to me, great. Right now, I just can't change things. Like, you know, the ability to make little changes to the things that you want to change, even in the editor, it's still not... I mean, it's good. It's just not as precise as you want it to be with certain things. There's just a lot... I feel like there's just a lot of tools that can do that now. And it's just like, we're not asking...

Play from 0:29:21 8:88:88 0:29:21 to overhaul the entire mid-journey experience. just like, yeah, I'm sure a lot of people want a world build and they want to build characters and they want to build whatever. It's like, this is the functionality that you need. again, I'll say that for the fourth podcast in a row, but it's really all in hope. They could give me nothing else. If they just gave me that for version eight, I'd be like, cool, I'm in. Like I said, it's good enough right now from an aesthetic standpoint and a range standpoint.

Play from 0:29:49 8:88:88 0:29:49 That's really all. looking for. yeah, but you know good job on the getting these two things released. Of course it was been a couple weeks since they had anything and now it's just bang bang. Same week, two consecutive days. When it's ready to fire, just fire it out. No PR necessary. I mean, it's not like anything else has happened this week, right?

0:29:50The editing limitations everyone wants fixed

Play from 0:30:14 8:88:88 0:30:14 not at all. Zero. I mean, my god, So I mean, I guess we segue to Nano Banana Pro. Is it Nano Banana Pro? Is that what it is? Or is it Nano Banana 2? I don't even. 3, Nano Banana 2, Nano Banana Pro, whatever. It's good. That's all you need to know. m I thought I saw something a long time ago before this dropped where it was talking like somebody had seen something about a potential name of ketchup for the next one.

0:30:24Nano Banana Pro enters the chat

Play from 0:30:52 8:88:88 0:30:52 And I kind of wish that would have happened. That would have been dope. They need another, like, it took on its own sort of brand. So I feel like they had to keep it in some way, shape, form. And they have problems with naming stuff, because they just have too many names. But now it's like, you know, it's got like six different names. It's got to stay now, because it just took over for a while. So that one's a... Google needs some naming convention help.

Play from 0:31:19 8:88:88 0:31:19 Yes. Yes, it's like everything, you know, there was before it was Google, you know, before Google Labs, was, you then it was Google, I think it was like VideoFX and then it was Labs and then it was, you know, now it's Google Flow and now there's Gemini Studio and then there's different products. Do you guys have like all of them and they're all something different and then you can all use them in one place or like only certain of them in some place.

Play from 0:31:46 8:88:88 0:31:46 It's, you know, whatever. They're doing a good job. It's like Gemini 3 is pretty damn good too. Not just the image side, like the regular LLM side. um Pretty, pretty impressive. Good stuff. oh I mean, I barely have played with it yet, but like the first example I pulled up was just, I dropped in, actually, let me see if I can pull this up. It's just, you know, like this is nothing crazy by any means, but I think, I was just trying to think of like that immediate use case of, hey, this can do something with video now. I don't have to upload a whole transcript.

0:31:57Google’s naming chaos (again)

Play from 0:32:21 8:88:88 0:32:21 Oh, okay, cool, right? So for example, I took our last episode, right? And like this wasn't the car, I actually did this in the car. So don't text and drive, don't be like me. But I dropped this in, carefully review this, right? Just the YouTube link, tell me what this video is about. Give me five impactful takeaways. Give me a perfectly optimized YouTube subscription for this video with self-deprecating and informational tone perspective, right?

Play from 0:32:49 8:88:88 0:32:49 Okay. This video episode 56, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. goes through really good recap. Here are the five impactful takeaways. We talked about the imperfection advantage. Midjourney's capable of doing things beyond just like that editorial professional photorealism, right? Grok's infinite scroll. Midjourney's utility king. We talked about the outpainting, like that stuff that we were talking about with changing the aspect ratios.

0:32:53Nano Banana Pro’s first real test: auto-summarizing video

Play from 0:33:14 8:88:88 0:33:14 Flux face. Visuals are replacing text. Then you get into the description. did a pretty good job here. And obviously, I could have gone a lot deeper with the instructions. Started to pull out individual markers for those things. And then hyperlinked the video. Yeah, we did. We did. We definitely panicked on air.

Play from 0:33:40 8:88:88 0:33:40 I don't think YouTube liked us for that one. And then I was doing this on the Gemini app on my phone too, and actually started to play the podcast right in this chat. Really? I didn't know that. Huh. this is this is pretty dope. uh So that's really the only thing I've done with it so far. But would love to get your perspective on that too. you know, how much have you played with this so far? ah What are some of the things that you're looking forward to?

Play from 0:34:06 8:88:88 0:34:06 Not enough to like go crazy on something. I was like, let me test the vibe coding stuff. Let me test the whatever stuff, the other things that were going on. me test the image generator. Let me test the LLM with some crazy asks, asking, you know, deep research and then synthesizing stuff, just like things that I could do in the background, like while I was doing other work, you know, and like seeing what it could do. Clean, clean, fast, pretty impressive in terms of thought process.

Play from 0:34:32 8:88:88 0:34:32 Like I had, I had some pretty interesting stuff going on. yesterday if anyone hasn't seen, there's a great post, hold on, they're on Nano Banana 2. Let me see if can pull it up real quick. There's a few things in here. Henry DeBrez, he is an excellent filmmaker in the AI space and I don't say that lightly because I think a lot of the AI film stuff is just like whatever.

Play from 0:35:04 8:88:88 0:35:04 You know what stands out because it's really good and you have to have a film background. But let me share this thread because I thought this was awesome. So this was great. He, Henry, believe works for Google Labs in some way, shape or form. But uh he put up this trailer for the new thing that he made with Nano Banana Pro and it's really good.

0:35:30Split-stacks, keyframes, micro-sequences

Play from 0:35:31 8:88:88 0:35:31 But the real cool thing is the stuff that he goes into inside his thread here, where he's talking about lot of the different shots and how he sort of came up with it. But there's a few things in here that were pretty interesting um when it comes to the way that he was generating. So he added, let's see here, first he gathered references from the film where he created Image N3, and then he wanted to create a character sheet from some of the stills.

Play from 0:35:57 8:88:88 0:35:57 So he created the character sheet. The split stack thing is pretty interesting. Yeah. I'm glad that you brought up this example actually, because I had seen this, either this thread or another thread that he did that was talking about this. This is great, yeah. Yeah, so it's like it's asking for the split stack in this. So it all generates at one time and it's all relatively coherent based on what's happening in the scene. So, it's like that's a good.

Play from 0:36:22 8:88:88 0:36:22 to have that last week when I was doing those those four stills, you know. again, the split stack on the 12, too. Like, this is actually really impressive for the coherence and stuff like that. Naturally, the style is going to work better because of, you know, basically less texture and sort of less, you know, supreme detail. Like, some of this isn't going to work, depending on how detailed your images are. But, like, that was interesting.

Play from 0:36:48 8:88:88 0:36:48 What was this? Flipping back to the landscape. There was a few other things in here that I thought were pretty interesting. This one. You know, what does this scene look like 300 milliseconds before or 100 milliseconds after? One second later, right? So just like going in sequence, which I thought was also pretty cool. a cool thought, you know, in the first place. I don't know that I've seen it before.

Play from 0:37:14 8:88:88 0:37:14 and maybe, maybe that's just because nothing would react to that previously. I have no idea, but I love that thought process as a prompt. Like that is stellar. Yeah, that one, I've used that before. you know, like basically, you know, the problem with video a lot of times is you feel like you have the image that should be the middle frame. In like, if you're doing key frames, like you want something before and after, but yeah, sometimes that's a good way to, you know, generate the key frames, right, is to do it that way.

Play from 0:37:47 8:88:88 0:37:47 This was, I think this one was pretty interesting also. It's also, it's good with text so you can draw animation notes. and then send it to VO3, like this was just a good, like, I thought it was a great design to sort of like show, you know, how this, how sometimes you can craft a shot in a little bit of a different way, like using the annotations, which was good. Like this is another good example that someone shared, right?

Play from 0:38:13 8:88:88 0:38:13 Like these are pretty intuitive, like on the, on the, got the timing on the speed ramp, which is great. You know, frame. You have the keep secondary action flow. This is cool. Like, and it actually, you know, from that standpoint. But very, very interesting ways that people are using this stuff right now.

Play from 0:38:40 8:88:88 0:38:40 I was like trying to wrap my head around and it's like, you can do anything. It's like, damn it. Here we go again. Let's just see. this, um just backing up really quickly here, how underrated though is this? priority in terms of staying up to date and expanding your surface area knowledge of any given tool or use case application.

Play from 0:39:09 8:88:88 0:39:09 You have to be following people on social that are doing similar but different things than you to understand the vastness of the capabilities and things that you just wouldn't have thought of yourself. I mean, this has to be a part of your process to stay up to date. um If you're listening to this and you are not on something like X, for example.

Play from 0:39:35 8:88:88 0:39:35 And you're trying to keep up. It's a mistake. You gotta get on here. You gotta get on here and follow the right people because this is also part of it's not just what you can think of and come up and play with too, but it's it's it's just the ability to almost see something and be able to compartmentalize certain capabilities and use case and applications that you just otherwise would not know about. You just have to be doing this.

Play from 0:40:01 8:88:88 0:40:01 I mean, there's some really there's some really crazy stuff like I did one Yesterday that I was just like well, this is this is epic um You know going through it and say like being more so like here's a website, right? um This one would basically let me see if I can find it Let's see if I have it. No.

Play from 0:40:27 8:88:88 0:40:27 I'm to have to look through while we're paying. Yeah. say also with Nano 2 or Pro, whatever the hell we're calling it, um they did stamp in something that was interesting with AI detection capabilities in the metadata, I believe. ah don't have the article up, it's actually in my other tab and I don't wanna lose it here, but it's essentially along the lines of you can take anything, that was created with Google, put it into Gemini and say, hey, was this generated with AI?

Play from 0:41:03 8:88:88 0:41:03 um Now, I tried that. I tried doing that with something that wasn't generated in Google to kind of see if it could smell out that test. And I just closed Gemini, but it couldn't tell. um So I don't know, but in terms of like what you're creating in there, there is sort of like that watermark or metadata built in.

Play from 0:41:31 8:88:88 0:41:31 So it's just something maybe to be aware of as well. Very interesting. Yes, that was a well, here's here's ball while I was looking for what I couldn't find, of course. Here's here's just some of the stuff I was running with using Henry's sort of idea here. I was like, let's take our our last thumbnail and sort of like I said, you know, do the three degree three three stack, but rotate by 40 to 45 degrees like concurrently in each single one.

0:41:34Refraction, distortion, and text-on-glass tricks

Play from 0:42:03 8:88:88 0:42:03 So it's like, OK. We're getting that. This one, where was the other one I did, was, let's go for the vertical tilt, you know, by 45 degrees on each one. Let's go, you know, varying camera angles here, which I'm like, all right, let's preserve also like the positioning of the people so we can get, build a whole story out of this stupid, you know. taking this from a standpoint of nodes too, right?

Play from 0:42:30 8:88:88 0:42:30 Think about Weevy for a second. If you can change, take this to a second before this or a second after this, that changes sort of workflows in there too, right? So. Everything. It's really awesome. mean, like, this stuff was... Let me see if I can... If this is in here... This was also impressive. I was playing with some of the text capabilities, which I was using a Grok image, which is, definitely a little bit out there, right, in terms of, like, what it looks like.

Play from 0:43:03 8:88:88 0:43:03 And I'm like, well, let's see if I can layer some text on here in a very specific way, which was... the typeface on that or give any specification on the font? Let's see, I wanted to remove the Kodak text. It said, let's visually immersive saying telepathy, breaking the text vertically and stacking it while adding opacity and depth to create a balanced design. I put it in here. Typically when I stack text or want to do text, like this is a great way to do it.

Play from 0:43:29 8:88:88 0:43:29 If you want to have like the text broken out, like if this is words, like I just say, do it like this, like, you know, works like if you're doing certain words, like when I do the thumbnails, that's what I figured out is if I stack it. okay, interesting. So it all comes in instead of it being like all on one line or like listening to you just like tell it. Yeah. blocks a great part of the image or whatever it is. Yeah, so it's like text takes over the entire frame, letters are transparent with the glass refraction that's directionally correct over the layer.

Play from 0:44:03 8:88:88 0:44:03 And then I wanted to give it sort of like a little fish eye distortion so it wasn't just straight across, which like gave it some more dimension. But I was really impressed with like the refraction piece of it where it's actually like looking through and like essentially magnifying the certain pieces of the image. And I was like, okay. tell you one thing. When you sent this to me last night, I couldn't really appreciate this now that I've got this context, right, of what you kind of put into this.

Play from 0:44:29 8:88:88 0:44:29 Because obviously this is bigger than my phone, but two, just seeing what you kind of instructed here is really, really cool. Yeah, that's it was like, I was if it can do if it can do that, like if it can do like refracted, reflected, reflected, refracted, uh refracted glass, right? I was like, huh, because this one, you know, this one actually got it when I left the Kodak piece in there.

Play from 0:44:56 8:88:88 0:44:56 And it like, so it did it like it refracted it like really well, which I was like, huh, okay, because then I wanted to try and sort of like bend it a little bit and see if that would change the refraction, which it did. um Like it changed the perception distortion here, which again, like you can see the Where was the example of it here? I think like her head or something is up here and like some of this is a little bit more Magnified if that makes sense, but it's to me That's a really complicated thing to do like for image generator to keep this thing sort of coherent.

Play from 0:45:29 8:88:88 0:45:29 So I was like, alright That's kind of wild right? There's so many different things with this tool that I've just been finding I did myself with a little, you know, mukbang on 90s frozen food, you know, live stream. You know, I don't know why that was in my head. was just like, this is stupid. Yeah, that's it.

0:45:35Micro-editing breakthrough examples

Play from 0:45:55 8:88:88 0:45:55 You know, I got my mozzarella sticks, I think, or fish sticks, maybe some, what was that? Like Captain D's. What the hell are those? Do you remember the fish sticks that were, what were they called? my God, they're terrible. got my bagel bites in the background, pizza rolls. It picked that one up right away. It's just like, you not that hard. But there's some other cool stuff I came across too, which was, you know, using color palettes to sort of shift things and make micro changes, which I was like, huh, all right, that's a good thing.

Play from 0:46:30 8:88:88 0:46:30 I don't know how this is, you know, this is just something fun I was playing around with here, but like I fed it. this image, right? And I added these manually, the color palette and like the reference image. I was basically like, you know, take the reference image. I want to adapt the Jersey style to match this style and use this color palette to sort of fill in the design aesthetic. I was like, cool.

Play from 0:46:55 8:88:88 0:46:55 So that's cool. Like it did that. Then I was like, well, can I really go micro? Which I think this is a bigger deal than probably we're thinking is like, can I give it all of these micro annotations, which the Editing has always been really hard. On the editing models, getting really small changes has typically been pretty hard. You can do bigger changes, but small changes is hard. I'm changing the helmet color, changing the logo, changing the jersey texture and color, changing the micro details on the sleeve, changing this little logo here, keeping the stripes, changing the face mask, changing the color of the jersey and the numbers and the trim.

Play from 0:47:35 8:88:88 0:47:35 And it's just like, bang. Okay. And then even here, just like making it more random, like with harder things, like make this reflective chrome, make the number reflective chrome, you know, change the stripe to this, do that. I'm like, okay. It's just really impressive for making the micro changes. You know, some really cool stuff as of recent, but that's like...

Play from 0:48:04 8:88:88 0:48:04 That's like what's going on, man. This is like, I'm scratching the surface. I have to play with this for an hour. And you can do a million things naturally product transformation, translation. Very good. Like product to product, car to car, character to character. Really good, stronger. You know, having the one, the one 2K or 4K options. Great. um I'm amped. place to use this currently is in terms of the platform?

0:48:33Best platforms for running Nano Banana Pro

Play from 0:48:34 8:88:88 0:48:34 So what I can't show on here is some of the client stuff that I was doing yesterday. But what was cool is like for a piece of ad creative, like using Gemini Studio for this, if you have it, like you're able to pull in from websites and information. So I was like, here's the product, here's the website, pull in like the icons and like sort of like the product benefits and features to like stylize the ad creative and like bring it in and just like bang.

Play from 0:49:01 8:88:88 0:49:01 took it all in like exactly one for like the right icons, the right fonts, the right colors. I was like, this is great. Like that's a really nice way to do it. Like that one. Yeah, I think all these aggregator tools, they all have promotions right now. So, you know, get Higgs Field and FreePick and CREA are like. is the best bang for the buck?

Play from 0:49:26 8:88:88 0:49:26 I don't know. think as of right now, I'm just using free pick mostly. I don't know. I I think at least in terms of what I knew, it felt like the best option. But I don't know for sure. I was curious if you had a thought on I've been liking Gemini Studio only because I wanna play with it in its own environment. First, so I can see what are the more complex things it can do with the LLM side attached to it, right?

Play from 0:49:54 8:88:88 0:49:54 Versus like what I'm doing in Weevy, I feel like I know what I'm doing there with it to begin with. You know, and what I already have it sort of built in for, it's just an upgraded part essentially. But like Gemini Studio, there's like more things that you can do because it has the LLM baked in, even though I don't like the chat window. sort of situation, neither here nor there. um Yeah.

0:50:13Gemini Studio vs Weavy workflows

Play from 0:50:20 8:88:88 0:50:20 Just like too open-ended. is crazy. mean, there's been just some awesome examples. I mean, you went through a bunch already. um Removes backgrounds, background removers, they're fucking toast. I mean, just, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, we're just scratching the surface on it. I've definitely saved and curated quite a bit.

Play from 0:50:46 8:88:88 0:50:46 I think also going back to the text part, right, just in the complexity, you and I were chatting too about like, know, hey, what if I've got, you know, eight different parts of this, you know, visuals that I want to have in here in terms of like a flat lay of food ingredients. And then I also want to throw on text, you know, instructions in there.

Play from 0:51:12 8:88:88 0:51:12 And it just, it just couldn't get there, you know, it just couldn't get there before. um I can't wait to try it now. um But you know, it's just like if you can't one shot and you run it a couple times, you can't get it. just like, well damn, it's just gonna be a pain in the ass either way. Either I'm gonna have to do this without the text and just get all the ingredients first and then add text, you know, but I think like this looks like it can handle text more comprehensively, more at a higher, you know, a more complex sort of standard too.

Play from 0:51:42 8:88:88 0:51:42 You know, like you've seen... You've probably seen a few of these too, right? Where it's like. Pull it out. You've got a whole whiteboard, right? Like step-by-step instructions, right? ah You've got even this, right? A lot of text in here. I don't know if this is supposed to be like this or not, probably just because of the value change of the banana. But like lot of text in here, right? That's a lot of text.

Play from 0:52:08 8:88:88 0:52:08 um So I mean, this is going to unlock several. new capabilities and workflows for people. I'm excited for that too, because even though we had all these great things, even though we had NanoBand before, there were still limitations. There were still plenty of limitations. And now this feels like that next step. uh can find, Rorke did a good post on graphic design too, which I thought was pretty impressive.

0:52:13Multi-step layouts: text + objects + composition

Play from 0:52:33 8:88:88 0:52:33 Um, some of the things he was able to create with the graphic design portion of this. Let me see if I, if I, which one. Still from a shopping channel, VHS tape from 1986 where somebody is selling the most useless trinket ever invented. is amazing. my God. I just love the creativity of other people too. You're just like, I don't know that I would have thought of that.

Play from 0:52:59 8:88:88 0:52:59 That's amazing. And then you got something like Anthony Edwards poster. Let's put Kim Jong-un in there. I mean, So you got upscaler, sure, right? There's that post from Henry that we were talking about. I'm just trying to think if there was anything else. This was kind of interesting too. This guy uploaded the first page of his book and then got a cinematic sequence from it, right? So he had a prologue here, got that, right?

Play from 0:53:26 8:88:88 0:53:26 So it's just like, this is definitely an entire new step, right? If we're talking about levels, this is a new level. Click into Justine Moore's one. think she's got a couple interesting ones in there. I'm correct, the one with the Our Minds Are Blown. Justine Moore, think she's got a couple. Scroll up a little bit or down. Hold, hold, hold. There. That one with Mr.

Play from 0:53:52 8:88:88 0:53:52 Beast. There's a few examples. Yeah, I think there's a few examples in that thread that are pretty, that are somewhat interesting. Like Image Generation. with search, like, technical drawings, was, that to me is like just crazy that I can do that stuff. So insanely impressive. This was, yeah. that aren't trash, that aren't trash.

Play from 0:54:18 8:88:88 0:54:18 Because you could say infographics before, but there's gonna be some hangups in there, which kind of defeats the purpose, right? It gets you excited enough. And then when you try to do it for something, maybe you're actually gonna use, it's like, it's not quite there, but this looks different. Virtual Cia, what is this one?

Play from 0:54:44 8:88:88 0:54:44 This is... Came with the set list, behind the scenes shot tour bus. Yeah, some cool stuff in there. was. Just remember what Rourke was doing. If you guys don't follow Rourke, he's always got some good stuff. He was uploading a design brief. Instead of the PDF, he was screenshotting the images with the design brief, and using those as image references, and then basically giving it the image and saying, do this, as a graphic designer.

Play from 0:55:13 8:88:88 0:55:13 And it was just like, followed six pages worth of design brief. got, nailed it. I'm like... Right? I'm like, it's intuitive because it's reading the post. It's not just like referencing. It's like, all right, I'm going to read what you give me. was cool too, Rory. This one's on Instagram. basically got this image. gave it a very rough architectural set.

0:55:18Design briefs, ingestion, and real client examples

Play from 0:55:40 8:88:88 0:55:40 Read the sketch, keep the proportion structure. Or damn, why do I keep doing that? You can tell I don't use Instagram on desktop. um This arrow, but you know, render the whole building section in coordinate and glass, then take the central debating chamber, build an accurate, correctly labeled exploded diagram. mean, these are like spaces that a lot of the people on X aren't in, but like imagine bringing this particular vertical and just blowing people's fucking minds.

Play from 0:56:18 8:88:88 0:56:18 crazy. The thing is, it's so open-ended and creative. You can do a lot of stuff with it. I haven't even thought about stuff yet. I was like, know, could probably take a picture of my refrigerator and be like, can you make a Thanksgiving menu? Dream up the meals and make the Thanksgiving menu from what's in my refrigerator right now. It would probably come up with the recipes, make the menu, do whatever. This is stupid things.

Play from 0:56:43 8:88:88 0:56:43 I'm like, you can do a lot. I use it for certain things too that I don't even remember that I use it for. You know what I mean? Where it's like, my buddy asked me the other day, his kids were in a picture together and one of them's looking the wrong way. And he's just like, can you just make their eyes look both at the camera and it didn't look one second.

Play from 0:57:09 8:88:88 0:57:09 It's like simple things like that where it's like, forget you do them but they're useful in everyday life and not for yourself most of the time. 100%, yeah, that's a great point. now it's now it's like i'm open season for everyone on ai stuff because now they all know that what can be done like can you do this for me can you do for me can you do this can you change this guys like i gotta watch the youtube channel yeah folks that are in-house to be like the gear of change and add a whole nother level of sort of like value to you with unlocking these capability.

Play from 0:57:49 8:88:88 0:57:49 Like these typical businesses, they might have one or two people that are playing with these tools at a deep level. There's so much opportunity there. If that. You know what I mean? And so I just think if you're in B2B SaaS, for example, because that's where I came from, you better at least know how to do nano pro moving forward.

0:57:57Why every team now needs a Nano Pro person

Play from 0:58:15 8:88:88 0:58:15 mean, that has to be the new standard of what you would need to come in with. mean, just imagine how much more agility and creative freedom you have with that capability alone. I mean, that changes in Ork. And then I think the hardest part about that though is then communicating that value all the way up and then actually having the resources of the team to like scale that out. You know what I mean? I think that's the challenge for a lot of these businesses that don't have a me you or these people that are listening to this there or that they're working with.

Play from 0:58:49 8:88:88 0:58:49 mean, it's just, it's crazy. It was awesome because yesterday I was in Boston the last two days with one of my clients. It was like on site. We were just like going in deep on a lot of the Weeby stuff, which is probably like 50 to 60 % nano. And I'm working with like professions and like professionals in like areas that I've never touched before. I don't know anything about the 3D space or anything about like really the VFX space.

Play from 0:59:20 8:88:88 0:59:20 But as we're working through this, I'm seeing the way they're doing stuff, and I'm like, this is cool, because we can apply this tool in that situation. And then it's like, yesterday, we were trying to figure out how to swap a product perfectly in a video and do this localization in terms of changing the color of the product or whatever. And it was like, oh, we can extract the frame, and then we can use Nano to remove it, and we can replace it and use it as a pose and style.

Play from 0:59:47 8:88:88 0:59:47 oh pose detection and then like place it back in and then layer the lighting back in the right way. It was like, they're like, this is exactly how we do the stuff in the VFX. We're just doing it with a different set of tools. And then they were, they were like freaking out. Like this is so awesome. Cause you know, can we, can we sort of like, you know, get the matte version of this and extract this, you know, you know, basically, know, on a green screen stuff, right? Like all the time you gotta like strip the lighting down to make it matte, then put it back in.

Play from 1:00:15 8:88:88 1:00:15 I'm like, I'm learning all stuff I didn't even know existed. And like, not that I didn't know existed, just like no idea that's how you did it. And now it's like, okay, you can see all the tools, how they're all coming together, but it's awesome to see how other people with different backgrounds do it, completely different backgrounds do it. Cause it's like, now I got ideas. Now I got ideas. you can see their brain moving, too, trying to comprehend what it actually means for them.

Play from 1:00:43 8:88:88 1:00:43 Like in that moment, I'm sure you saw that on their face. Because it's not the thing is a tool like Weeby. It's not a centralized tool like Photoshop or Blender or Premiere or whatever, where you have like all of your things listed. So you have to know what each individual outsource tool is and what they do and then put them all together. it's sort of like once you know that they're in there and it's like, OK, cool. This is actually like really legit because there's certain ways that they had to provide imagery.

1:01:02The “segment anything” Meta update + VFX workflow talk

Play from 1:01:14 8:88:88 1:01:14 to their team, because they're going to do some CGI compositing in it. So they had to have something with the product in it, and then something without the product in it. But a lot of times, there's a hand interacting with it. But the hand has to stay exactly in the same place, doing the exact same lighting. Nothing can change, except the product has to be erased, and it has to get filled. Because they're providing both, one with the product and one without, so they can do CGI edits if they need to.

Play from 1:01:40 8:88:88 1:01:40 So it's like these little intricate things that go on. on the back end that I was like, okay, this is all starting to like, you can start to see where this stuff comes, you know, super, super in handy. Like now that meta thing that they released this week to segment anything the Sam, the Sam model, I showed that to them, they were having like, oh, come on. It's like, I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do with this.

Play from 1:02:06 8:88:88 1:02:06 Like you guys, I'm sure do. But like rock and roll. mean, that's something I'm very curious because that has the, that feels like we're, like we've been talking about for the last two years now almost, where it's like anything is a variable within any image. And then like you can change basically anything, move the positioning, you know, change the background, move into the scene, move out of the scene.

Play from 1:02:33 8:88:88 1:02:33 everything just becomes 3D. Then it's like, we're just like isolating our own world and building within it. you you're getting toward that minority report moment where you've got the scene and then you're just controlling it with the hands. Like at some point just reaching down and dragging and circling things with a mouse is probably obsolete, right? Where it's almost like you're just immersive in a scene. Boom, boom, boom, remove this, take this. You you're just doing all kinds of crazy shit with your hands maybe.

1:03:00Minority Report future of editing

Play from 1:03:00 8:88:88 1:03:00 I don't know, but. it, you know, same thing. It's like, want to build in that like 40 holographic space. Like, yes, no, that's what we're hoping for. That in AI context, like we talked about last week, we're getting futurist up in here. We're gonna have a lot. And it's, you we'll have, you'll have a lot more stuff.

Play from 1:03:27 8:88:88 1:03:27 probably coming out next week as people get their hands on this and then have, you know, really been putting it to the test to see where it goes. already saw someone make a comic book out of their LinkedIn profile, like to, it's like their resume. I was like, that's genius. Yeah. They like just gave it their, I gotta see if I can find it. But someone made their, I saw that they uploaded their LinkedIn URL into Gemini and basically said like, make my career journey a, comic book.

Play from 1:03:57 8:88:88 1:03:57 So it was like, it was like their resume as like little frames in a comic book. And I'm like, that's just genius. Yeah, that's super cool. People are people are creative, Like, creative. It's smart. I love it. Just a good, just a solid, solid good use of your brain there. And all the haters can hate. feel like shit when you start seeing all the cool stuff and you haven't even played with it yet.

1:04:20Feeling behind while the internet shows off

Play from 1:04:25 8:88:88 1:04:25 I'm like. And I'm like, let me change a color palette. That's it. let me take that first step first. Yeah, yeah, it's I saw I think the other one that was pretty cool was like one of the YouTube guys I can't remember his name, but he saw someone's someone's lighting setup that they liked in an image and it was like Give me a screenshot and he's like give me the lighting setup in a 3d in a 3d sort of sketch mock-up and then it like Put the lighting in like the places that it should be and like from the direction and like the tilt and the angle I'm like that is intense, but you know, I I screw with stuff like that.

Play from 1:05:04 8:88:88 1:05:04 like when people sort of hack the system like that. That's pretty cool. So much, man. I wanna be... wanna see if I can find that now, cause I know exactly what you're talking about. Here it is. Here it is, yep. Right here. that's it. Maybe not exactly as I described it, but still cool. That's right, dude. That is, again, like, even think about that in the first place, but then for it to do that.

Play from 1:05:36 8:88:88 1:05:36 that's insane. Yeah, that is why. There's so much fun stuff that we're gonna probably have to go over in the next like two weeks three weeks and right right in time for the holidays, but you know more coming Yeah Friday, we'll have to connect to just kind of see what's going on. But I'm glad that we got this one in because I think we were thinking last week, shit, I don't know if we're gonna be able to get it in and a lot happened and we got it in.

1:06:04Thanksgiving scheduling + next week’s plan

Play from 1:06:07 8:88:88 1:06:07 Yes. Good, good stuff. We knew you guys, couldn't, we couldn't leave you hanging on Nano Banana, Eve or Day, whatever the hell it was. Like that's a big change for the industry. Obviously Midjourney had a lot of stuff, but this is again, like another push, another leap forward. Like there's, seems like we have like these, these sort of like, I don't know, like we're just sort of like trotting along and then we hit full sprint, right? Like this is one of those full sprint moments again.

Play from 1:06:33 8:88:88 1:06:33 So yeah. everything a little bit. Mm-hmm, but If you're still here damn it like and subscribe, you know the deal and tell somebody about it Yeah, tell somebody about it mailman Yeah your bartender ah You know, maybe you're Maybe your babysitter something like that something here for everyone babysitter, babysitter subscribership is low.

1:06:58Babysitter subscriber recruitment drive

Play from 1:07:02 8:88:88 1:07:02 We need to up that a little bit. So we'd appreciate that. Yeah, man, this, I'm glad we got it in. This was great. Hopefully you guys got some value out of this. We covered a lot. We're gonna be back. We're gonna have plenty to talk about next time too. Thanks for joining us and we'll catch you guys in the next one. See ya.