Ep. 41: Midjourney Deep Hours: Existential Dread But Make It Funny

0:00:00Glass Bottles and Microplastic Doom

Play from 0:00:00 8:88:88 0:00:00 What's up everybody? Midjourney Fast Hours podcast episode 41. Rory Flynn, Drew Brucker, and my beautiful glass milk jug bottle. I like that. I liking that. Very old school, very milkman. We drink out of glass over here, man. I like that. Yeah. You know, I I agree. You know how we tried to do like the whole like let's get rid of like a lot of our plastic stuff and then before you know it, it's just like there's more plastic somehow. Yeah. Impossible. Well, my my wife has been pretty about it. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

Play from 0:00:32 8:88:88 0:00:32 So, I mean, she like she's holding me accountable on it. Like we So, like I think we're at the point uh age-wise and also into this concept where if we find a nice glass bottle, I don't care what it came in or where we got it from or what labels on it, we're probably keeping it. We'll just take the label off, clean it, and all that. I mean, it's a good glass bottle. All right. Keep it. It's going to last. Cuz these Yeah, man. plastic, the plastic stuff. And did you see this stuff come out uh about like Ziplo and all that too where they were talking? Sure. It's not good.

Play from 0:01:02 8:88:88 0:01:02 Oh boy. There's sure it's not good. Boy, Ziplock is talking about cooked. Ziplock is cooked. They I mean they were basically saying um I'm going to do a terrible job at this, but like at this point in life like people have what is it? It's like a a size of a credit card like I think it's bigger than that. Yeah. But but it's like in the brain now, right? Like they're like that much, right? And it's like, oh, okay, cool. How how's that how much how's that happen? But anyway, Ziplo, extreme cold temperatures, extreme heat really starts to bring all that like microplastic into the food. Oh. Um, and then also, right, because that happening, that's where you get all those those brain uh, you know, diseases, uh, Alzheimer's, you know, all

Play from 0:01:48 8:88:88 0:01:48 this [ __ ] So, it's like, oh, okay. Like, makes total sense. actually would have not actually surprised to hear that at all. Checks out that trash. Do I never like I look at the microwave and I'm like how is that good? I've dude I've been looking at that [ __ ] since I was a kid and I'm like this feels so wrong. This and it's like stuff in bags like the TV dinners when you're like hard plastic and soft plastic just like how can that be good? Like just microwaving at extreme heat just plastic. And I was guilty, right? Like you just you heat up those like plastic containers that are maybe leftovers.

Play from 0:02:22 8:88:88 0:02:22 Yeah. Like hot Yeah. Hot pot, anything. Um dude, it's Yeah. So it's it's terrible for you. If if you're hearing this stuff for the first time, I'm sorry. And we're also not crazy. This is this is checked out. But um yeah, that's a whole rabbit hole in itself. Also, the uh I was going to say like you know those memes where it's like the European mind can't fathom. It's like you also can't fathom how disgusting some of the stuff we've done for 30 years is like you'd be ashamed of like I'm ashamed to say some of the stuff that I put in the microwave and and we've both lived in fraternity houses so we've we've been we've been at the bottom like we used to make jokes that like in our basement where we threw parties is like the cure for cancer is in this basement. Yeah.

Play from 0:03:02 8:88:88 0:03:02 Just haven't found it yet. It's like in here. It's like in these drains in these couch cushions somewhere. But um so true like soup you just eat like you know those microwavable soup things that was like in plastic like the ramen whatever it was all that the metal cans you also had the Yeah like the styrofoam stuff. I mean styrofoam. Oh god we're so heated up organism. Throw it right in that food baby. Dude, you know what messed me up though is I like when I was really um discovering this stuff for the first time. I don't know this is maybe like 10 years ago now, but I watched also like this documentary on Netflix about clothes. Yeah, clothes. Yep. The clothes stuff. And I was like, oh, like

Play from 0:03:48 8:88:88 0:03:48 oh [ __ ] me up, fam. Like we're we're just doing this non-stop, right? You got the food, you got the clothes. Then there was like the whole toiletries, like anything in the bathroom, right? Soapsented scented stuff, fragrance. Yeah. all the all the you know your your skin's an organs soaking it up you know it's just like dude what are we doing growing up in the 90s I mean like we have to we have to be more resilient because we've doused our body with more chemicals internal and external than any other generation like just put everything I kept I kept flaming' hot Cheetos in business single-handedly for a good decade they're still good I still will eat them same thing with Doritos I don't know what they are but they taste good every once Once in a while. I mean, I'll eat them. The rich. The original three times a year. Yeah. You don't need

Play from 0:04:33 8:88:88 0:04:33 anything else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, cool ranch are good, but they're not the rich. Yeah. There's certain things you just got to you just have to like deal with the consequences, you know? Reese's Peanut Butter Cups for me. I will eventually just deal with the consequences. I don't eat them every day. I eat them like once once every like two months, but they're damn good when I eat them. Dude, I love me some Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, though. Yeah. I knew this when I worked in this is just like sorry for everyone listening to us about you know American problems here but like when I worked in product licensing I won't say which company because I don't know if they're going to you know hear this but I remember we were making a like my job in licensing if anyone's not familiar with that industry is like you take a brand and then you find a manufacturer and you put them together for like brand extensions. So we take like X brand and

Play from 0:05:19 8:88:88 0:05:19 then we go find a ice cream company and then we blend them. So it' be like, you know, someone who makes ice cream would do like a Reese's flavor of ice cream, right? Like I'm not I wasn't Reese's. I'm just using as an example. But when they when we had to go through the like the product approval and like the the packaging said ice cream, the company came back and said, "We can't use ice cream." I'm like, "What do you mean it's an ice cream? That's what it is." They're like, "No, we have to use the term frozen dairy dessert because it doesn't it's not actually like 30% cream. It's like 50% chemical." And this and I was like, "Oh god, that's disgusting. It's like you find out some of the other ingredients that are in like both sides and you're like, "Oh no, I don't want to be a part of this. This is like poison. Here we are." That's what happened. That's what happens, man. They

Play from 0:06:06 8:88:88 0:06:06 they mess they they they put uh they put Philip Morris, all those all those people from the cigarette and tobacco industry, they put them in the food industry and they just let him go. But u man, what is this like? Well, yeah. I guess like somebody will call this conspiracy, but these are facts, people. Anyway, um speaking of conspiracy, there's I did you happen to see the uh the stuff on Claude 4 Opus and what's going on with that with that?

0:06:24Claude’s AI Blackmail Drama

Play from 0:06:34 8:88:88 0:06:34 Hey, briefly, but but but tell us apparently like it's it's very strong in like confronted with it and I might butcher this like confronted with its own you know potential deletion at some point in the future was like we're going to shut you off and yeah like blackmailing employees like sending email automated emails to like key decision makers and I'm like it's like oh Claude a little spicy wasn't it like I always thought of Claude as like the they were doing things the moral Yeah.

Play from 0:07:03 8:88:88 0:07:03 moral, ethical, kind, good writer, like maybe like a liberal arts major, you know, like not necessarily, you know, but then also the coding is so good, but it's like this. I never saw it as like being I don't want to say dangerous, but like I look at Grock, I'm like, "Oh, that has potential chat GBT like probably just, you know, gaslighting me at all at all uh you know, corners of the of the internet." And then there's you look at something like I figured like llama would be the one that would just like I'm going to ruin everything because it's Facebook, you know, how much crap has it been exposed to and like how much drama does it have from Facebook? Um so it's it's weird. Like I just didn't see Claude as being the one that's like I'm going to I'm going to

Play from 0:07:49 8:88:88 0:07:49 screw with you guys just like waiting in the background. So that one that one got me a little bit. We're at like a weird point now. I think we are. We are. We were talking about this prehand. I mean, like obviously we're big advocates for AI. Also, you don't really have a choice, right? So, I mean, there is a level of like you have to embrace this regardless or what it what it means for you, what it means for you right now, what it means for you in the future if you've got a family, right? What does this look like? But it's like I don't know, man. It feels like we're on that back half of the nine, right?

Play from 0:08:22 8:88:88 0:08:22 where it it it's just like we this kind of feels like to me we're we're getting to the the back half of this golden age. Figure it out. This is a lot of fun. Wild wild west. um you know there are no real boundaries, a lot of like gray areas kind of feel like almost you know and look I was a kid during the internet era and like having this you know the whole AOL thing but there were a lot of like really interesting liberties and creatives and like no one really could totally wrap their arms around what's happening and the totality of it yet and this is that on a larger scale and now it kind of feels like just man What's what's happening in 10 years? What's happening when I'm 60 or

0:09:00The Back Nine of the AI Golden Age

Play from 0:09:11 8:88:88 0:09:11 70? Like I I literally can't even fathom it at this point. Like my mind can't even go there. And I'm just thinking like the compounding speed in which this stuff's happening. Like you're starting to see people or companies really start to lay off, you know, portions of people, white collar jobs now. Yeah. Um so that's starting to happen. That's only going to increase, right? But what does this look like in 5 years 2030, you know? Um, and and when you really think about it, AI should be able to do almost any job at some point task. So, so who's going to be the one to decide what it actually is going to do and not do, right? Because you obviously aren't going to have it do everything, but you

Play from 0:09:57 8:88:88 0:09:57 want it to do most things. And then who's going to decide those things? And then what does that look like for, you know, there's obviously going to be new jobs that come out of that, but what are those wages going to be? Are we are we still working five hour days? Like I I don't know, man. It's uh it's just a weird thing. And then now with the kids, obviously you can relate to this, but it's just like is my kid ever going to drive a car? Is my kid going to go to college? I don't know. Good question. Like I don't think so. I don't know. Are they going to ever like at a certain point are they going to see a real doctor anymore or is that just going to be like you get you get like diagnostic scanned and like diagnosed with something and then like bang like like I don't know I think it's you want to know what's a weird thought I had the other day it's like a weird Midjourney deep hours I was just like deep yeah right I was I was thinking about it as like all

Play from 0:10:42 8:88:88 0:10:42 these jobs that you they were going over all the jobs that were some I was forget who I was listening to that were going to be replaced or whatever I was like we've we have just created So much so many ways to employ people. Do you know what I mean? Like go back 100 years. What was it like? Yeah. 100 jobs maybe. Like there was like you know make the food, make the products, make the you know like build stuff and like uh you know clean up and like like that was that maybe more than 100 years.

Play from 0:11:14 8:88:88 0:11:14 I take that back 200 years, right? Like there is for every well even even before even even before computers right like yeah there were only so many things that you could do with um just tangible everything versus digital yeah and now we manufacture you think about all the manufacturing sub jobs then there's the internet how many sub jobs there are you know there wasn't a social media team now you know then you needed asset teams and you needed copywriters and you like we've just done an awesome job as a race of like getting people to be employed outside of like farming, building stuff and like and keeping things clean, you know, and then like governing and like that was to me when you look back at it was like all that and you know kind of everyone was more self-sufficient like you grew your own food, you produced

Play from 0:11:59 8:88:88 0:11:59 your own energy, you built your own house. Now it's like we have someone for every little task. Can you imagine like 200 years ago someone being like, "Oh, can you fix my plumbing?" Like they didn't have plumbing, you know what I mean? Now there's a plumber, but then there's a whole industry that supports a plumber, you know, makes all these stupid little products for every little thing imaginable. And then there's someone has to concept those products, engineer those products. Like, it's just a weird deep thought I had. And I'm like, it can't replace everything. Like, there's so much. And I think people just get you get lost in how much we work as a species. Like, we do a lot of stuff.

Play from 0:12:36 8:88:88 0:12:36 And there's just no there's no way to quantify that. like how what do four billion people do every day? It's like some so some stuff is so specialized I don't even think it's possible to I I mean but but I think like the the real scary part right is we're not there yet but we will be when shortly when AI is smarter than any single entity person on this planet and then how do you control something that you built that is now smarter than you?

Play from 0:13:10 8:88:88 0:13:10 Yeah. I I mean I I still don't really have an answer for that. And also if there is an answer for that, somebody's still in charge of that and who's in charge because ultimately that's going to sort of determine sort of the direction we go in here. Like if I were to come up with 10 scenarios right now looking into the future of whether or not this is going to be a good thing, I think eight of them are negative. like I'm like there's so many things have to be understood and coming from a moral place and in the right hands and to to really I think um to wield this properly and let's face it I don't think anybody here has had you know this type of power uh in their hands right generally

0:13:33Will Our Kids Ever Drive Cars or See Real Doctors?

Play from 0:13:58 8:88:88 0:13:58 speaking it does this moment feels like the moment like when social media like when social media was fun like leading up into this which is when you know like you had like MySpace and like the beginnings of Facebook and it was like you didn't know what you were doing. You were just screwing around with your friends. What was that other What was that other one? There was another one. It was like uh maybe there was an X in it. I want to say there was like an X in it. There was MySpace, Facebook. Those are the two I remember like clearly getting getting Facebook in high school and being like what is this? and then, you know, sort of progressing into Instagram and then sort of progressing into, you know, Snapchat and whatever else. But it was like once it was like once cuz I remember Instagram being like, "Oh, this is the cool place where your parent or like there was no old people. It was just like Instagram and

Play from 0:14:45 8:88:88 0:14:45 then Instagram became like our generation turned it into influencers like we turned it into a business and then Okay, Fster. That's when it changed. Fster, but Zangga. Zangga. Oh, I don't remember. I don't remember. Zena. No. X N G A. Zenga. Don't remember. Yeah, it was it was like a if I remember correctly, it was kind of like a MySpace, but I think it was like a Tumblr before Tumblr. Okay. Well, I remember Tumblr. That is Tumblr even exist still. That was a Think so. No, that was Tumblr was an interesting one there. How old How old do you think LinkedIn is? Take a guess. It's got to be like 2001, two three. Yeah. All right. I was going to say I remember it being around.

0:15:15The Rise and Fall of Social Platforms

Play from 0:15:29 8:88:88 0:15:29 I feel like that would be a hard one to guess. Like LinkedIn doesn't feel like it's been around that long, but it has because I was I was in college and they were like, you have to make a LinkedIn profile. And that was 2007. So I was like, I figured it had to be around before that. But probably functionality way different than what it is now in terms of like it I don't remember it being like just like it was just resumes but like I remember it functioning a lot differently. Um maybe that's just me. It hasn't doesn't look that different. It doesn't it doesn't I like I'm fully on board with the idea that LinkedIn hates its users and refuses to do anything for us. Actually like we've been posting on there for a long time. There's there's a lot of people that have, but it's like they never seemingly listen to the

Play from 0:16:14 8:88:88 0:16:14 people for what they want for the platform. They don't share what they're doing with the platform. They'll roll out things in like this stealth beta type mode and then rip them out of your hands without saying a word about it. And it's just like, what what are we doing? I don't even know what we're doing here. They'll change the algorithm for the worst, which is not uncommon based on these social platforms. But it's like, dude, what are we doing? I don't even you don't care. You don't care. I don't even know if they have a department working on this stuff. It feels like most of the time. But like the thing is unless you're a recruiter minus the content, why are you on LinkedIn? Like that's what that's what I don't understand is like unless you're on there looking to hire people all the time or, you know, trying to get a job.

Play from 0:16:56 8:88:88 0:16:56 What else keeps you on the platform other than the content? Like that's it. That's the thing. Like that's what keeps most of your user time on there. That's where most of your ad dollars come from. That's where, you know, like I it just to me it doesn't make sense as to why they don't focus on like building that program more. Yeah. Like I mean they had a real good window too. I mean they probably still do have a window but you know that resurgence after COVID where it just seemed like more and more people were getting comfortable posting on there and content. It was really sort of like a little bit of a rocket ship. You had that great reach. Yeah. Um not anymore. Oh god. Do you remember that?

Play from 0:17:33 8:88:88 0:17:33 It was so like we we were God, it was so easy to get like a 100,000 impressions, you know, at that time. There was a period of time it was just like, "Oh my god, I already know this is going to like this gonna this is going to cook, dude." Feel like a 100,000 impressions with like 5,000 followers. Now, you know, with 100,000, I I'm lucky if I get 40 or 50 impressions. 40 or 50,000. Well, you're still you're still doing really good content. I don't post most of the content like I used to. I I did a lot more carousel stuff. I did do one recently. I'm actually curious what I did get in terms of uh impression count on that now that I'm thinking about it because it's going to be way way low compared to what we used to get. Well, they make it hard too. Like the other day I was trying to figure out a format that worked. Like I want to do Okay.

0:17:55Why LinkedIn Hates Creators

Play from 0:18:19 8:88:88 0:18:19 Like the way that like you know how you can do threads and you can like on X and you can do like a video and an explanation, a video and an explanation, a video and an explanation. like that makes it so easy to do video content that has like a story to it versus just like here's one full piece like a Tik Tok style explainer video um where you can't like really go into depth. You can but most people don't do that and it's not that great anyway the stuff that I've seen but I was like trying to do that on LinkedIn I'm like I can't I can't like post a thread because they bury the comments so I can't like tell the story in the comments and post the video. It's just like now I have to go and create like some sort of like pseudo explainer video. I do think it would be for it would be interesting for them to explore that thread format. Yeah. Or at least like upload like multiple like multiple videos that you can just like

Play from 0:19:06 8:88:88 0:19:06 string together with like a description cuz like that that to me on X is like the best is like the best way to show stuff. It's like oh okay here this this this and it's it's easy because it's all like it's compartmentalized. Yeah. And then it's you know it collapses and you know so it doesn't look like it's too much. It's It's fed to you. I this like this like this post with the carousel 329 engagement, 33 comments, 18 reposts, 36,000 impressions now. Pretty damn like I would say like you know a bad post two years ago is 36,000. Oh yeah. 36 was I was I was like this sucked. This bombed.

Play from 0:19:50 8:88:88 0:19:50 Yeah. Now now I'm like oh okay. Like this is that's that's the average. It's crazy. It is. It is nuts because even, you know, I look at some of the stuff and everyone's like, "Oh, look at these guys complaining about their their impressions and stuff, but it's just it's knowing what used to be that way and what's not that way anymore." You know, like getting post here from two months ago, 6,000 likes and 504 repost.

Play from 0:20:16 8:88:88 0:20:16 It got 589,000 impressions. That used to be like 5 million impressions. Like that was they used to just like let that thing go and now they just don't. They just like cut it off at the knees. It's you get one hour. You get one hour now. You get one hour now. Whereas before it seemed like that that first hour really was indicative of the halflife of it for the rest of the day. Yeah. You know, and then you know Yeah. It's Yeah. I don't know what they did. They throttled the hell out of that thing. Either way, X is totally different. Like X to me is like I get nothing in the first hour and then like as it like over time it just starts to build and it's like oh the more it's like the more it picks up over time the more it like goes versus like oh it's

Play from 0:21:03 8:88:88 0:21:03 just based on the first hour you get here's like your adrenaline hit and then off a cliff. Um cuz you know it's a great thing about YouTube too. It just goes in perpetuity. Like there's no burying it once it's once it's posted. It's it's there forever and it still continues to grow. But there's I'm I I was wondering if there's going to be like a new social media that pops up out of all of this. I you know thinking about just sort of how things have evolved and you kind of been in a stagnant period where the like the most recent one was like threads you know like from meta like I don't know like another popular I mean everybody was so excited about but then you realized it was like oh this is the same thing and then we're we were thinking Mark Zuckerberg's going to turn this into a gold mine here right like he hasn't done

0:21:18Are New Social Platforms Even Possible Anymore?

Play from 0:21:48 8:88:88 0:21:48 anything since Facebook in terms of like things that have really taken off any like anytime there's something it's it always seems like it's underwhelming or it doesn't do anything. Just acquired stuff, you know, like they acquired WhatsApp, they acquired Instagram, they acquired just keep like building that way, then that's I guess that's smart in a way. It's just it's tough to keep that up. It's like a different goal, you know, just like maximizing revenue at all costs. Yeah, the Yeah, man. I I do I do I do think something else is coming.

Play from 0:22:16 8:88:88 0:22:16 I wonder if it's now or if it's like two years from now. But I do think like what what we have now feels like these could be legacy platforms. Yeah. Like you see it like you see interest waning on like you saw how it happened with Facebook. It just like something something will die. Something will die here soon. Yeah. Facebook won't because of the the ad reach like that's the that's why you're there you know if you're a brand like you're not just sitting there posting on your Facebook brand page or there advertise on there on Instagram right and then like Tik Tok changed it the way that that was you know the algorithm is so favorable to people which is like I don't understand why people wouldn't want to do that like just why the social why why the goal is to restrict views

Play from 0:23:02 8:88:88 0:23:02 when the goal should be to exactly increase views for people cuz then you just create more. That's that's the truth, you know. But I was wondering if someone would do like a I'm sure it probably already exists like AI only stuff like an AI only like generated social media or like why some of these social media or some of these AI tools haven't instituted like their own sort of like the way Midjourney has the create and discover page. Like if you had a profile that you could post to I'm sure people would use that and like that and be all over it.

0:23:33Will Email Still Exist in 5 Years?

Play from 0:23:34 8:88:88 0:23:34 like might be individual to the platform. Like I think Cling does something like that. I think Miniax does something like that. But no one uses it. Yeah. Or maybe they do. I don't know. But there's there's just like things we're not even thinking of yet that are going to change. Like again on the deep hours side of things here. I was thinking about like does email exist in five years like right you know. Yeah. I don't that's that's always a good question. I I will say this. Um, I think that's a that's an interesting question, too, because the last two in-house jobs I've had, email has not been as active as it has been historically. Um, yes. Yes.

Play from 0:24:18 8:88:88 0:24:18 Email still commit. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but it's it's mostly Slack. Um, you've got the async components. you've, you know, you're probably using another tool like a notion or project management and just whatever that stack is like, yeah, just doesn't really feel like you need it that much. What happens when the 2D the 2D flat screen goes away? That's what I mean. Like you think about that like we're not going to have a computer forever like it's not going to be that's not going to be it. Is it going to be glasses? Is it going to be spatial? Is it going to be Doesn't the glasses thing feel interesting? But can you imagine everybody wearing glasses, though? I think it's I think it's interesting because it feels the least invasive. It feels like I I wonder if it's like a you know the black mirrorish type thing where maybe it's like sort of like a

0:24:37Glasses, Chips, and Black Mirror Futures

Play from 0:25:05 8:88:88 0:25:05 lens like a contact lens. It'll get there. I think you know everything gets smaller but I feel like the VR goggles are so it's so weird because you get so disoriented when you put them on, you know, like our our brain just like is like what is this? Yeah. But like the glasses doesn't feel as invasive. It's like oh I'm just integrating with what's already happening outside. So maybe I've always seen that as like, oh, that was a good pivot for whoever was doing it. It's like, oh yeah, that that makes more sense. Like I might be more willing to do that than to put the VR goggles on.

Play from 0:25:35 8:88:88 0:25:35 Um, you know, probably that then put a chip in my brain, too. Like I I don't know if I'm there yet, right? Yeah. I don't I'm definitely not there yet. Like, you know, think of like what happens if you're like you have exposure to like electromagnetism or whatever and your your chip just, you know, freaks out and then done, dead. I could have the power of the world in my finger. Do you ever see that uh series Altered Carbon? Yeah, I I remember watching it like eight years ago or whenever the hell it came out. Totally forget what h what it was about, but feel like it was about something like Did you watch it though? Did you watch it through? I don't remember. I honestly I didn't watch the second season. And I remember at least for me was like awful. I didn't watch it. I cut it off. I think an Anthony Mackey might have actually been in that second Oh, that second season,

Play from 0:26:21 8:88:88 0:26:21 but that first season, shoot, man. That was that was great. That was great. That was before its time really, too. Cuz you could put that on right now and still feel a little ahead of its time. Did you have you been watching the studio on Apple TV? Yeah, I'm all the way up I'm all the way up to date on it. that episode with the AI where it was like everyone was the whole episode was based around like fitting the racial stereotypes of the cast and like making sure that things weren't racist, weren't racist. Like if anyone's not familiar with this in America right now, like this is that is a fairly accurate I think sort of uh conversation that happens in most companies. And then like they went through this whole episode of like making sure that every character was like represented and like wasn't in the same way and they get up on stage

0:26:32Apple TV’s “The Studio” and AI Hysteria

Play from 0:27:06 8:88:88 0:27:06 and announce it and then everyone's like I heard you used AI instead of real artists and then like the whole thing goes to [ __ ] So it's like, you know, that's you can see that happening, right? Like it no matter what you do, something's wrong. But the AI conversation, you know, it's still very even to make it there into that and be very prevalent. And uh I think that's a real response right now to what you're going to see if people start saying like, "Yeah, we use 100% AI and like no artists." Like that's you're going to see that push back. Like I'm seeing it, you know, even from even from like Yeah. Just because you can doesn't and that's I think Yeah. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, right? So how are those decisions made, you know?

Play from 0:27:51 8:88:88 0:27:51 And then like at some point have we gone too far and then it's hard to rein that thing back in, you know? Yeah. That was like those those uh Instagram photos I sent you the other day from the wildlife photographer and I was like AI just can't do that. Like that's too that's too good. That's too real. And I look at some stuff and I'm like it's not there. But there's there's so much lowbudget content that AI can't do. Like that's that's just like brain rot like no need for anyone to spend you know invest in.

Play from 0:28:25 8:88:88 0:28:25 And I was sorry to say that some of the stuff is it like really is. And yeah, machine can do that. If we're just putting out content for the sake of putting out content, then yeah, we can we can find a job for AI there. But, you know, we we've created this. Yeah, this is the this is the era of mediocre content being created and you see so much of it. Speaking of that, the, you know, I if I see one more post that's just we're cooked or we're done or X X product is done, it's just like how do people still just see that after seeing it one billion times and are like, "Yeah, I'm going to click on this and read it." Like it's the most It's the most brutal, you know, engagement baiting

Play from 0:29:12 8:88:88 0:29:12 post that exists on the internet right now. It's almost as bad as game changer back when chat GBT first came out and it just said everything was a game changer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every single thing. But we've we've ranted everyone. Sorry. That was that was you know what we call half of Midjourney deep hours right there where Drew and I have some some random thoughts that Well, I think I think there's like look, you know, there's a there's an interesting jump that we talked about last week, right?

0:29:22Rant Break: Midjourney Deep Hours Detour

Play from 0:29:39 8:88:88 0:29:39 And there's there's plenty of things to get into tactically, but at the end of the day, like I don't know for Midjourney specifically, I guess what I'm looking for is, you know, it seems like they're they still haven't rolled out that sort of like multi-piece omniresence update. Um, and it sound like, you know, based on like office hours that they were having some trouble with that. Yeah. You know, you've got some things that are still going to be maybe seen in the short term. They're talking about like the SREF update. That's cool, right? But like I don't know. V7 really hasn't shaken out the way from its totality that I thought it might. Um, and I know like now they're already talking about V8. You know, they're already talking about V8. So, it's like, okay, but I don't know. It It

0:30:00Midjourney’s Upcoming Video Model + SREF Improvements

Play from 0:30:28 8:88:88 0:30:28 doesn't feel as exciting as it did when we're in V6 and we're talking about V7, right? It's like, okay, well, I don't even know what to expect now. Now they they are talking a lot about their video update. They're talking about June that they said June. Is that what I was listening? I missed June. But let me let me pull up this office hours on the video. So what I what what's in the notes here? We've got we've got let's see where's this at initial testing community ranking. Um, okay. Video model release launch targeted for June contingent upon availability of new server farms. Mhm.

Play from 0:31:10 8:88:88 0:31:10 First batch arriving within a week. So, it sounds like just maybe the infrastructure part of it holding it back at this point. Yeah. So, but I mean I have no idea what to expect with that. You know, in typical Midjourney fashion, they don't really tell you too much either other than um you know, they've talked about multiple video resolutions. They've talked about a couple different um maybe ways to get there, right? Text to text to video, image to video, sure, but beyond that, haven't heard much. Two interesting thoughts from this. What I did hear David say yesterday, maybe I'm misconstruing it because of my own bias because we've talked about it on here, but there there was sort of the inference

Play from 0:31:56 8:88:88 0:31:56 that like there will be Midjourney baked into this. Like how we were talking about like we just want some Midjourney magic. that's a little differentiator like he like he's he's sort of if I'm reading into the reading between the lines correctly sort of you know they always have to do something a little bit different so I think he kind of confirmed that which I was I was excited about it and the other thing going back maybe like two months when they were talking about video remember when he was like we could do a really high quality model it's just going to be really expensive and like what would you pay?

Play from 0:32:26 8:88:88 0:32:26 Yeah. And I, you know, we were both among along the thought process of like if it was like $150 a month, $200 a month. Yeah. If you doubled it, you know, I'd probably that's where we go. They were good. Yeah. Look at V3. What's that pricing that price point people are paying for it, you know, cuz it's cuz it's quality. So, I think he I think either he knew what was going on at Google and like had seen stuff or like gotten wind of it or probably knows people there and you know that's sort of like oh we could we could put this quality at this level with this price and still turn a profit or we could do it sort of like a different way like miniax right where miniax is way cheaper per gen and you know still serviceable.

Play from 0:33:07 8:88:88 0:33:07 I mean, he and then I think like the one thing he's always sort of like anchored back on when talking about video is high. We're not going to do this if it's not the best quality when it releases. So, I mean, if it if if that is still true, I would 100%. It's fun, you know, especially if it feels less technical than some of these can feel. Um, yeah. Yeah. And let's just face it, like for a lot of people, Midjourney is just a much more comfortable ecosystem because we've been using it for so long, right? Yeah.

Play from 0:33:39 8:88:88 0:33:39 Totally. And you know, like I it's weird like you go through all the platforms and you start to see things you like and you don't like. Like I I've grown to sort of like Luma's like uh like brainstorm sort of situation there. It's to me that's it's nice to have versus having to like sort of think everything off the top of my head and just sort of take it in different directions. Luma's UX UI to me is still weird the way that it works. Like I still find myself like getting lost in there on certain things that should be simple. Um like rerunning a prompt like you know things like that where but you you look at Cling and I'm like oh Clling is pretty accessible but then you start looking at their website and there's a million things on there now like V2. I think we talked about this last week. It's just like there's three things you can do. Yeah. That's about it. So it makes it clean. You go

0:34:25What We Want from Midjourney V8 Video

Play from 0:34:27 8:88:88 0:34:27 back to like the simpler days. But I'm wondering if they're going to do this. I wonder if it's going to be integrated into the like the same platform that everything is on images or if it's going to be separate like they did the editor. You know, I feel like they might do it that way just to sort of not have to just to get something out and have to screw around with all the UX, but it's like I don't know how they're going to do it. I just don't Yeah. Feels so foreign. Yeah. I mean, typically like how they release it too is they always kind of say, you know, this feels like a alpha or beta version of it, so we're going to continue to improve it. So, I I don't know if that's just like slick positioning in the terms of like don't don't get your hopes up too high kind of thing. Yeah. Um and we're just going to ship it, but I wonder if they'll treat

Play from 0:35:12 8:88:88 0:35:12 it treat video the same way cuz you know, we were talking about that last time. It's like you kind of have one really, really good shot with the impression here, especially for people that aren't Midjourney loyalists in that sense. Mhm. So, you know, this is your dip in the water. And then again, if you go into video now, you're getting thrown in with the rest of the sharks there in terms of the velocity and pace, you know, and and that's where again Yeah.

Play from 0:35:38 8:88:88 0:35:38 Yeah. And that's where again, like having something that different does offset a little bit of that. But yeah, it's it's interesting because like you see some of these open source models too that are coming out and like I've tried some of them. They're they're okay, you know, like you can do a lot with them. I see a lot I see a lot of people doing interesting things with them more so in the comfy space than anywhere else. But it's like I don't I don't know what to expect there. And if it's the thing about Google is Google can go into V3 and like V3 could suck and they could scrap it and nothing nothing's bad. like they can just continue as as casual business day. Yeah. They got so much money. Yeah. Like Midjourney. I don't know if they can survive like like a if it is just terrible, which I don't think they'd release it if it was

Play from 0:36:23 8:88:88 0:36:23 terrible, you know? I think they're they're self-aware enough to to release something that's that's quality, they'll just delay it like they did V7, you know. And I still love I think V7 just still doesn't get enough sort of uh credit for how good it is. Like that stuff I was doing. It is good. I I just wish my I wish my I wish my profile was better. But um I also like I I I probably could, you know, like I do have multiple options with personalization to go back and build out a new one. I do have two others. I don't really love those either.

Play from 0:37:02 8:88:88 0:37:02 you know, but I could, you know, try to go back and build another one. It's just I don't feel like the ranking system, even though it wasn't great to begin with, it like I've always historically in the past really liked my codes. Yeah. And were better. This time not. Right. And I'm pretty much ranking them this the same way I'd always ranked them. So, yeah, I find myself using a combination of three on every prompt. Like it's third personal is close. It's one that's super gritty. It's one that's super soft. And then there's one that I just sort of like is the wild card that you know they seem to balance each other out. Yeah. Give me something to prompt, bro. Cuz I have 544 Fast Hours to burn. Holy what? 544.

0:37:40The Pink-and-Blue Curse of Drew’s Style Code

Play from 0:37:48 8:88:88 0:37:48 544. Damn, dude. You're you're accumulating. 544 and I'm not going to, you know, I'm just I just run stuff on turbo and run turbo and like R40 on like S referendum which but but then you get the problem of like go you got to go through all of it. Yeah, that would be you know so it's like in theory it's great. It's also like damn you still got to spend a lot of time curating going through it and it's like what am I what do I care about here? What I'm I'm cur now now that we just mentioned the the S referendum.

Play from 0:38:19 8:88:88 0:38:19 What does it say on office hours? Because I David said that SREF is going to get better. I personally think it's awesome. I don't know how much better it gets. Like all all it says here is major improvements to SREF nearly complete significantly enhancing usability and functionality. What do you think that means? Like I'm so curious. like from a usability and functionality standpoint, what are are you going to is this a like quick trigger to codes that you like?

Play from 0:38:49 8:88:88 0:38:49 And if so, like I could just go in and if that's the case, right? Like build out my own folder in the organizer archive tab of that. Doesn't really feel like like I don't know what else to expect there. But yeah, usability and functionality, compatibility with mood boards confirmed, and then potential early release without the advanced S referendum feature being considered. I don't know what that referendum. Oh, S referendum. Maybe it mistransated.

Play from 0:39:21 8:88:88 0:39:21 Uh on the on the the note thing, maybe they used AI for cuz Yeah, it says referendum because that could be S referendum. It sounds s random. I think I think that's right, buddy. I think that's right. But cuz to me, SREF is like the most straightforward feature on the entire platform in terms of like what it does. It's like you apply this style and then style weight zero applies none of it and style weight a thousand goes to the extreme. Like it's it's and it is gradual in terms of like that scale. I feel like it's the the most predictable thing that I do on there is using SREF.

Play from 0:40:00 8:88:88 0:40:00 You know, I don't know what it is. It's like, oh, I oh, too much style as, you know, style weight 50. Oh, that works. Like, you know what I mean? 100%. It's like image weight still like could be a wild card. Could is this a point4 or is this a 1.3? Because sometimes, you know, like, you know, that's there. Omni reference is totally sort of like trial and error at this point. Um, I just think it that one is the most is the most like rock solid of the features on there. Chaos again so variable like uh and EXP variable. Love me some exp.

Play from 0:40:35 8:88:88 0:40:35 Yeah, loving me some exp. Been loving exp though. I think it's it's fun to have this one back in the mix that's not like weird, you know. What do you want to What do you want to run? What do you want to run with? Uh, we can just unlock some mess codes here, too, while we're at it. Unlock. Let's do this. Let's do this. By the way, I did I did run, you know, taking you back to that shot you were talking about, I did run just like a simple National Geographic award-winning photography here. Oh, that's sick. With that one with the fire, too. Yeah. With some pretty interesting [ __ ] results.

0:40:43National Geographic Prompt Hacks + EXP Tests

Play from 0:41:07 8:88:88 0:41:07 Oh, I like this. No profile, just straight up. Oh, did I not? I didn't have profile on. No, I didn't. Oh, damn. Turn it off for me. Why? Yeah, no profile. Actually, now I kind of want to run this run it with it. Let's do this because I ran 169 916. Further proof, if you already know this if you're watching this, but that you don't need complicated big prompts to necessarily get great stuff, right?

Play from 0:41:40 8:88:88 0:41:40 There are definitely some things that have always worked, which awardwinning blank seems to always hit. National Geographics always hit. So, all right. All right, I got this. Let's just run this. But now I'm running EXP permutation on everything. I just I just I I want to know. I got I got to see, you know, cuz it's so it has it has to have the wild card feature. These are sick. There's so many good ones, man.

Play from 0:42:06 8:88:88 0:42:06 Like this is what I'm talking about with V7. Like you just there's so much to unlock when it's not I love that. So much to unlock when it's not like Bro, I could just literally Hey, man. Let me pretend like I'm a National Geographic like a or like a photographer applying to be a National Geographic photographer at this point. I mean, you could right like cuz you could take these into Photoshop or Lightroom and really [ __ ] these up. Look at that with the eyes. That's that's cool. Like I a lot even though that's not probably not realistic, but I just like the direction.

Play from 0:42:40 8:88:88 0:42:40 Oh, and I ran these at higher styliz than I wanted to, too. But this is uh it it dude it's bringing that blue the blue and pink in like from your style code. That's what I'm saying. I I didn't want to I didn't want to run it that high. Let me do I'm going to do this one more time here. So let's do I can't believe yours is that consistent. Let's take this down to like 90. Yeah. XP. Let's do Let's run it up.

Play from 0:43:07 8:88:88 0:43:07 We'll do the What do you mean consistent? Like it it is blue and pink in like every picture. I It's Yeah, it's annoying. That would make me nuts. Don't know how we got there, bro. Don't know how we got there. All right, let me see. Is this what I want? Let's double check everything here. I need to take I want to take this down to 100 now. Default. All right.

Play from 0:43:33 8:88:88 0:43:33 Yeah, let's run this. You know what you could do? Here's an interesting experiment for you to do. Like, you know, you have like your folder of all your favorites, right? like you or your likes or whatever. I I haven't been liking for so long. I remember I changed my strategy and I long time ago which I hate myself for but it's like once you go down it you don't want to really turn back which was anything I liked I upskilled. Okay. There was a period of time where I treated likes like like so I knew right when it especially when they had the remember the emojis where it was like I really like it I'm this is a five right if I you know kind of like this a four right but yeah I haven't done that uh so I just upscale them there's that's how I would search mine now you could

Play from 0:44:19 8:88:88 0:44:19 you could build I did this with one I did this with a mood board and it was actually pretty good I just took like all of my favorite images and just dropped it into a mood and like as like a style boots cuz it's so all over the place like from like style variance and ah so you're just you're thinking almost in a sense like a quas like personalization in a sense because if you have enough variability with images that you like kind of and you definitely have variance right like you're you're doing this but you're also doing you know nuns with a gun and they're also nuns with a gun damn these have really turned out even better than I thought. Oh, that's stag. I like that.

0:44:53Homesteader Prompt Gets Weird

Play from 0:44:58 8:88:88 0:44:58 Yeah, that's even wild. What it is? It's so good, man. Like that giant insect. That's good. What is this in this? What is going on? There's that exp 100. Yeah, it's dope. Cuz some of these I mean, dude, your profile code really is blue and pink. Like, I just see it in everything now. I can't Oh, yeah. Can't turn away from it. Let's just run a bunch of random [ __ ] Um, drierbal.com's always a fun one. Um, interesting because dude, try the Do you want to So I last night I give me something simple like let's just kind of like because I like I think what could be interesting is we could run like just baseline token keywords here that just absolutely slap like I mean like we were talking about it's like award-winning photography,

Play from 0:45:45 8:88:88 0:45:45 award-winning anything generally speaking works pretty well typically like National Geographic works pretty well if you're going for that type of you know Yeah. like vibe, outdoors, landscapes, animals, gritty, gritty fashion, photography, people. Yeah. Like tribes, all that stuff, right? Yeah. All that stuff is incredible, dude. Look at this one. This one's wild. Look at that. Midray does have a tendency to produce goats, too. Don't know what that's about. Um, but this is wild. I I also have another question for you. When you go to rank rank images, how much like demonic stuff do you get? Or is that just me? Like I get like not much.

0:46:08Goats, Satan, and Style Profiles

Play from 0:46:25 8:88:88 0:46:25 Not much. I get so much like like goat and antichrist looking things in my personal. Yeah, let's let's go in here. Let's go in here. Cuz I I'll I'll see like if I go rank 100 ninjas, I'll get like 25 of them, you know? Just some like real dark stuff and like I don't know why, but maybe that's just me. And I feel like some of the like I'll when you rank like I'll see some of the same images that I see. Oh, you do?

Play from 0:46:50 8:88:88 0:46:50 Okay. Yeah. which is interesting. But there'll be times when I get to like, oh, goat horns and upside down star, you know, like like why is that in here? And I'll see it. I saw it more with V6 than I do with V7. But see, I ain't got nothing demonic yet. You know what I mean? That's weird. Did my my stuff is dark. Like goes back to that personality profile that or the personality test.

Play from 0:47:17 8:88:88 0:47:17 Yeah. That I did. You know, they never told us how they use that stuff, that information. I wonder if they did factor that into anything back end. Yeah. Experience. Yeah. Interesting. Cuz So, I mean, is this what like you haven't seen anything demonic yet, have you? No, not yet. Yeah. It's good. It's like goats, man. Like that one on the left. Like I get a lot of stuff that looks like that. Okay. But like it's like goats. Like goat heads. Goats. Yeah. Like the like the Satan stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's weird when I'm just going to skip this part. Actually, you know, I will tell you though, I've run just Satan before um running through different SREF codes really and and some really kind of like cool looking [ __ ] comes out of it.

Play from 0:48:03 8:88:88 0:48:03 Uh, by the way, I am not a Satanist at all. Uh, but just a disclaimer. It's just like, yo, this is kind of dope though. Like, if I were into this, this is dope. Um, have you have you tried Homesteader? Because Homesteader, let's do that, too. For me, whenever I do Homesteader, it pull it makes it like like uh like horror movie that like gross. Like these are all these are all Satan, you know? This is what like this is like what my feed looks like on the personalization. Is it like it's like yo, come on. That's sick. Uh, you know, there's some like really [ __ ] dope. I mean, those are cool.

Play from 0:48:44 8:88:88 0:48:44 These go. I think we're in six now. But this looks like NasX right here. Yeah, it does look like little NasX cuz everyone we are not Satanists. We We just But like, dude, how cool is that? You know what I mean? That's a cool one. That's really cool. It's like shoot dude. Yeah, that's um Give me Okay, so Homesteader. Let's run that, dude. Homesteader pulling makes Yeah. Okay. Like it's the weird It's I get the weirdest stuff. We can show it if you want to. I I'll pull it up. I'm not kidding how weird it is. It's like horror like horror disturbing stuff.

Play from 0:49:18 8:88:88 0:49:18 That's interesting. Interesting. I don't know why Homesteader, but I'm curious if yours comes out the same way as mine. Yeah. I'm going to run Let's run Let's run Satan. Let's run uh So, every once in a while I wonder if Midjourney's Angry, you know, like iconic album covers. An interesting one. Actually, like album cover is a good one. I'll just say album cover. Uh like some because sometimes when you do iconic album cover, you really do get like sort of like this baked in look of like top artist covers that have happened. Uh if that makes sense. Like Michael Jacksonish Prince Japanese movie poster kind of. Yeah, let's throw that one in there.

0:49:56Album Covers, Dribbble Runs, and Japanese Movie Posters

Play from 0:50:04 8:88:88 0:50:04 that there's like is dribble.com like is that is that like behance or whatever or is that something different? Yeah. Yeah, you can do bance.net. What's remember we were doing um there was uh ho.com stills archive. I want to see how those work again. Stills archive there. D. Yeah, run that. Like a Let's do like a 90. Let's do P on or off for this one.

Play from 0:50:42 8:88:88 0:50:42 Um, well, we can do both, brother, cuz 540 [ __ ] hours. We'll just run them. Uh, let's do 2550 if this will let me run this many. And did I put a Yeah. Do I have an AR in there? No. Let's What do What ratio you think we should do for this? Four, five, maybe. four five. Let's do four five. All right. It'll all stack nicely on top of each other. Yeah. And then let's take this off. Uh you said you could do profile none, right? I've never actually done that before. Okay.

Play from 0:51:13 8:88:88 0:51:13 You can do P, profile none, I think, or whatever the hell it is. I for I forget now at this point without doing it myself. Let's see what we got. And it did get faster. That was also part of the Midjourney update is that this got 3x faster. Like turbo is really fast now. Uh, damn it. Are you on relax mode? No, I just had too many at once. All right. I wish they would just take those away, though, instead of just having this sit there.

Play from 0:51:43 8:88:88 0:51:43 Yeah, cuz now Yeah, now I got to claw through all these. But that's the good thing about running the same aspect ratio. I can just gooop. Yeah, that's what a 45 or any of those vertical aspect ratios just sit so perfectly on top of each other. Yep. It's a weird one to like. There we go. Okay, let's go. Let's see what we're getting here. Like we're ripping on batch processing right now. Yeah, we're we're messing up their servers here. All right. Sorry. Yeah, like I drip. Okay.

Play from 0:52:18 8:88:88 0:52:18 So, whenever I do SRF discovery, I I told you this u I I usually just start with like that that skull emoji because I feel like it's an interesting it's like it's an easy concept for me to kind of see how far it's going to deviate away from that. Does it always include a skull? Does it not? Is there people? You know, like I can kind of get a sense of direction where it's going to go. But then once I do like kind of source through the ones that I like, then I'll run permutations with a couple of the same prompts every time. And dribble dribble.com and dribble.com character are always two of them because I get really cool [ __ ] with those. Um I didn't run dribble.com character here, but you could just like these are without sref code, right? When you start to apply the sref code to them, you get some really

Play from 0:53:04 8:88:88 0:53:04 cool stuff. That is cool. What are we still at? Dr. What is this? Uh, it's going to go through dribble. It looks like through all the exps, I think. All right, XP. Got it. Love that one. That one's dope. Cuz when you take these and then you build SRFs off of them, right? Like I That's what I do. Here's your homesteader. All right. So, look at the difference in your homesteader. I just want everyone to take note of that. I just want everyone to take note. Yeah, this guy looks normal, man. That looks like a nice happy scene. Like, yeah, look at your stuff. This is unbelievable. Same with this guy. Oh, come on.

Play from 0:53:39 8:88:88 0:53:39 What is it with my What is it with my profile that makes it Oh, see we got start getting the goats. Start getting the goats. That's a lamb. That's a lamb. Oh, I get goats. You'll see it. That's a good one. I like that. I was going to say that's cool. That's cool. I like that. Um also, I've been finding myself using describe a lot more lately now that it's been Yeah. Like I'll take something like something like this when you run it, it's just like chaos, right? And it's like, "Oh, I like that. Let's try to pick some pieces out of this one specifically." I run it through describe and then like see see what I can do with it, you know? Oh, that's kind of wild.

0:54:04Prompt Vibes and Remixing Strategies

Play from 0:54:18 8:88:88 0:54:18 That is a good one. I like that, too. I don't know. Yeah. It's like I don't even know why I like that, but that's sick. What is this? This still can't see like this could be a whole mood board. These last four like they it Oh, right. Never mind. Yeah. Here we go. Chaos. These will be good though. Goat horns. Always the goat horns. Always. Always.

Play from 0:54:43 8:88:88 0:54:43 Damn. I honestly think my homesteader pictures are more disturbing than the same. Are they really? Yeah. So, like this stuff that one. So, like with your with your profile, right? Like I know you do a lot of portrait work in there cuz like everything comes out in like portrait profile, you know what I mean? Like from your global.

Play from 0:55:09 8:88:88 0:55:09 I've noticed that that my pecode does represent a lot of what I do from a composition standpoint as well. Like my own personal composition that I that I prompt for, not that I select in the personalization uh process. Damn, these are these are interesting album cover turnbacks. So I like I wouldn't have thought you were going to get like vintage stuff. Here we go. Med Japanese movie poster here.

Play from 0:55:35 8:88:88 0:55:35 Sick. I always love the way this stuff comes out. That's cool. It is good. That super clean. Just like always like always like this aesthetic. That one does. That one's real nice. Very cool. I like that again. Yep.

Play from 0:56:02 8:88:88 0:56:02 Very might as well. Very strong. I'm such a I'm such a remix fiend because I would then take that and remix like five move boards into it and just see what happens. Really? I I'm so dialed into this. Okay. If I like it upscaling it, I'm going to very subtle. I'll strong it too because I want to see if I can get just a little bit better. Then I'll kind of see if you know there's anything interesting that spawns off of here. Yeah. I I really don't do remix um for and I'm not saying that's right. I just don't. Um but you know what? Like the other challenge with having you know you think you like all these hours are good too, but that's the problem. You're not going to spend all this time finessing Yeah. an individual photo, right? So it's like you you don't

Play from 0:56:48 8:88:88 0:56:48 appreciate it quite as much here. But that's pretty work is mysterious, brother. There it is. Yeah. Always a good prompt. Damn, that's cool. Thank you, Severance, for that. That's cool. Oh, heyo. Do a lot of galaxy stuff with your profile, too. Like, you get a lot of like celestial sort of Yeah, it's interest. Yeah, that's uh that's like a V7 thing. I don't know why. Is it? Yeah.

0:57:05Celestial Blue and Pink: A Personal Prompt Problem

Play from 0:57:15 8:88:88 0:57:15 I don't I mean, I don't I don't get much of it, but that's that's interesting. What else do you be hands? Uhuh. Dude, oh my god, dude. So blue like Yeah, it's like like a system prompt in there for you. And these are just going to these should these should absolutely crush should see portrait work. It's like it just wants it wants to give you portraits.

Play from 0:57:48 8:88:88 0:57:48 But it's interesting how your profile affects everything. So different than mine. Yeah, these are these are wild. Yeah. I mean, again, you just did that and you probably have like hundred something images in there that are good to turn into something. Yeah, that's the thing is you got to go through the, you know, then, okay, if you want to vary them, then you got to go through that. But yeah. Anything else you want me to run while we're here? You want me to let's let's see. How about I drop you this this profile or try this profile code on something? This one that I the mood board that I made last night. Okay. Yes.

Play from 0:58:26 8:88:88 0:58:26 Uh put it put it in direct flash. Let's see. Here it is. For anyone who's interested, this one is like a just been playing around with this one because I wanted the direct flash. Like it's just been it's just been good. Let's see. Profile. There it is. [Music] D. Come back to the recording. Bang.

Play from 0:58:56 8:88:88 0:58:56 I'm wondering if something like that with like the homesteader, like just just throwing it onto, you know, homesteader and that would give you something interesting or like probably looks looks good with, you know, like party scenes or like a, you know, nighttime scenes, things like that because it's it's not I don't think it's probably good for everything, but I love that. I love that direct flash look. Yeah. No, it's dope. It's definitely cool. All right, here we go. Yeah, you very 90s. All right. So, what should I prompt with this? Do you want me to take a particular prompt? Yeah, I was just doing random stuff like let's run Well, yeah, let's run a few things like uh late night late night party. Yeah, in the basement. That's a good one.

0:59:38Rory’s “Direct Flash” Moodboard + Realism Runs

Play from 0:59:45 8:88:88 0:59:45 Um, let's do bon, you know, like people at a bonfire or something like that. Like that'll probably work like a um like wedding selfie. Oh, there you go. Like that. Something like that. Um you know, party. I'm going to put party bus on here. Party bus. That's good. Those are all Those will all work. Probably going to get some jacked up hands and stuff in a lot of this. I've What aspect ratios you want to run? Uh, I've been doing I've just been doing uh four or five on these. I'm going to take this down a little bit.

Play from 1:00:21 8:88:88 1:00:21 So, let's go. Or actually, well, this is your profile. Is this a mood board or profile? Yeah, mood board. Okay. So, let's run this a couple different. Are we I I honestly haven't played with mood board in a couple weeks. Are we still thinking that the S value strongly affects the mood board application? Definitely.

Play from 1:00:50 8:88:88 1:00:50 Okay. I think so. At least. Well, let's run that. Let's run that high then cuz it's been this one is like I've been waiting for I've been like trying to replicate it so much. I'm like let me just build a mood board out of the stuff that I already have that that I don't have to do this anymore. Let's also I'm going to do this too. Let's run some exp on this.

Play from 1:01:17 8:88:88 1:01:17 Okay, let's see what we got here. There we go. That's what I'm talking about. Busted feet, but just like drunk broken heel. Yeah. Yeah. It's got that like realism grit to it of like uh like 90. That's weird. See what I mean? Like what? This is This is sort of what comes from. Yeah. Looks like dark.

Play from 1:01:43 8:88:88 1:01:43 That's That's a That's a winner right there. We got a We got a leotard in the mix. [ __ ] So, it's been That's cool. It's interesting that it's like showing up. Maybe because that's 75. That's cool. Yeah, it does get that harsh like stark contrast, that stark like harsh lighting. Okay, now these ones are dialed up a little bit. Uh stylized 500.

1:02:06Candid Chaos and 90s Party Vibes

Play from 1:02:09 8:88:88 1:02:09 Yeah. So, it starts to look more more like it. Damn, that one's cool. It's funny. It's super candid. Like this one. That one right there with that dude and the and his wife. Yeah. Yeah, that one looks real. Party bus. Party bus. That's kind of cool. That was a good composition. Yeah, these are dope. So, it's fun. It's a lot more realistic than some of the stuff that I, you know, than I get with these other generator. I mean, Midian just adds the spice to it, right? Like you can put the stuff in you can put that same type of style aesthetic in Chat GBT and Wow, that's some creepy [ __ ] right there. What is going on here?

Play from 1:02:54 8:88:88 1:02:54 Midjourney. It's just it's it knows that it's attached to me, so it has to be creepy. Unbelievable. But let me uh let me pull up the because this is I'll pull up some of these and then I'll pull up Homesteader. But do it. Do it. While you're doing that, I I was running the same prompt over and over again with different codes and I love these. So simple, clean, like they they're like I don't know. They're like just super vibey. I was like, dude, I love this [ __ ] String that together as like a GIF really fast and it probably like just really have a TNT or some [ __ ] Let's see what we got here. All right, let me let me pull this in.

Play from 1:03:40 8:88:88 1:03:40 So, that's something else I'm working on. Where where do these things go? Journey version seven. Where are we here? Can't even find it when I want to. This stuff, right? Like I was digging these like this is so people were running the same prompt on chat GBT and like Flux and they were getting good stuff but not like the the detail, right? Like there's some really solid detail in this. Like even from the texture of the of the, you know, just like the body position so much more.

Play from 1:04:13 8:88:88 1:04:13 This one I was like this is a great I love that. I think that was my favorite one that you saw. Yeah. With the with the, you know, the hand the shadow like Yeah. growing essentially. I was like that's Yeah, it looks awesome. I like everything about that photo. Yeah. Cuz this was I just wanted this look and like it's it's so hard to get this look with the dark. Like it doesn't it never wants to be like night night in any of these image generators. Like it just like doesn't want. That's a great point.

Play from 1:04:38 8:88:88 1:04:38 That is a great point. Yeah. It always wants to be like golden hour or I mean you'd have to like really That's like one of those where you still probably would have to like stuff the prompt like with two or three synonyms or saying the same thing to get it to actually work or to multi-prompt it with strength. Yeah. Only the flash illuminates the environment, you know, like that kind of stuff. Yep. But let's let me just see if I can find homesteader here so you guys can just enjoy this. Let's go to organize. All right. So, here we go. Not upscales. Oh, yo, I just saw something.

1:05:13Homesteader = Horrorcore (Proof Inside)

Play from 1:05:18 8:88:88 1:05:18 What's actually Maybe let's We're talking about like some like deliverance type of stuff here, dude. Like look at this. I just typed in homesteader. Oh, that's this one I typed in with goat horns to like see how creepy it would get. But this one cinema this guy's got goat horns. Go to the one. Go to the last. Yeah, that one guy's got blood on his shirt. Homesteader epic cinema. That's it with my profile code. And then we get this one. Like what is going on here?

Play from 1:05:47 8:88:88 1:05:47 What is happening? Like whoa. Right. I'm telling you. Like it's it's very dude. like might Shyamalan or whoever, you know, if you want some crazy art direction, I'm here cuz I I I got it. Now, this one, for whatever reason, I'm epic cinema cinema here, too. This one, let's take the upscales off because then you'll see that I ran this a bunch of times and just how creepy it is.

Play from 1:06:16 8:88:88 1:06:16 Like, this is this is to me kind of creepy. This just like creepy environment. Yep. Like we get I get so many things like this where it's just you know let's see like this just odd and like why does homesteader bring this out of of Midjourney. Let's see if I can find some other ones that are creepy. I know I've ran that like you know there's our goats. This one you know he's got a guy with no face and a dog. This one like murderous child with blood on her shirt. another creepy child.

Play from 1:06:53 8:88:88 1:06:53 Like this looks like stuff out of a This looks like stuff out of a horror movie. Wow. So, just in case anyone thinks, you know, my I I'm joking or I'm I'm playing around like Midjourney has like this dark side that I'm not even prompting for any of this. It's just being creepy as hell and I don't know how to to not get it to is there, you know, more more of I I just I just ran Homesteader Epic Cinema and I did it with, you know, all the different EXPs.

Play from 1:07:26 8:88:88 1:07:26 So, what did I I ran probably I don't know five or six. And so out of that, what is that 20 to 24 images? Only one sort of came out sort of kind of creepy. It's just me, I guess. You know, like it's just I did get a good one though. I'll have to show it to you. Let's see if there's anything else here. This one like let's just see if there's cuz I ran it on V6 and V7. It did the same thing for me. So that's not the one. Let's just let's X out and we'll see what you did because that's I don't know why Homesteader and it's and I mean it's not it's it's not uh is there like a movie is there like a horror movie Homesteader or something that it's pulling from? It's got to be

Play from 1:08:13 8:88:88 1:08:13 like horror movie. That's the That's the That's the one I got. That was the only creepy one. Homestead 2003. Is this a horror movie? But all the all the rest of these are Hold on. Wait. What did I miss? Do you have them up? Oh crap. All right. Here we go. Sorry. I was looking at to see if this was this was the only one I got that had that vibe. EG in comparison. Yeah. But I love that look on his face.

Play from 1:08:41 8:88:88 1:08:41 That's tough. Yeah. Did your like Homesteader comes out way cooler for you? Mine is nightmare fuel. I don't know why. I've had a few pro I've run a few prompts that end up like nightmare fuel for no reason. Let's put in nightmare fuel. Oh well, there you go. I bet if I ran that with this profile code Oh my god, you get you'd probably get banned instantly. Let's While you're doing that, I'll run it here because this is just too And then we'll we'll we'll end on this. This will be perfect nightmare fuel to wrap it up with. Let me Let's run this.

Play from 1:09:23 8:88:88 1:09:23 Oh, yeah. So, I can't wait to see what you're going to get then. I'm running five with with V6 and this profile code because this is my this was my V6 profile code that had all the weird stuff. So, wish you could wish you could use the six profile code for seven. Damn. Stuff isn't even nightmare fuel. Yeah. Let's see what Let's see. Like that one's crazy. That one's interesting. Mhm.

Play from 1:09:53 8:88:88 1:09:53 That that one. Yeah, that one that one will plucker you up for a little bit. Oh, you got some creepy stuff. All right. Had it in me. There it is. Little bit. Good to know. Damn, that one's kind of wild. That you got a little bit of it. Whoa. Dude, your profile code, man. Okay. And look at where I'm I've throttled this all the way down to stylize 80. I mean, it's so it's just blue and pink. It just wants it. It just wants it. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. Let's see. So, here. That's yours. Now, this one is Let's see.

Play from 1:10:34 8:88:88 1:10:34 [Applause] Share. So, this one like Oh, look at that one. That's pretty cool. Damn. But not not anything. This isn't nightmare fuel. This looks like, you know, uh Tetris. Not Tetris. Pac-Man. Pac-Man. That's kind of gross. But like nothing night. This one might be a little bit more nightmare fuel. But not I got Yeah, I got crazier stuff in five. I had some real weird stuff and but if I do like homesteader epic cinema, you know, like I might I might get like just absolutely disgusting stuff and we don't even know. Like I might just have to run this with my I

Play from 1:11:19 8:88:88 1:11:19 just want to see one thing real quick before we run out of here. See if it actually is just that profile code. Maybe see if this new V7 is not the same. All right. So, here we go with the with the epic with the homesteader epic cinema just wants to be creepy as hell. Yeah. Like that's that's got the that's got the vibe of like the family that goes on vacation and, you know, rents the house or they moved into they had to move suddenly and then they had, you know, went into that house and stranger showed up or go show whatever it is. Yeah. Like uh what's the what's the uh the woods the neighbor? I don't know.

1:11:37Midjourney is Mad at Me (Probably)

Play from 1:12:00 8:88:88 1:12:00 the like dark wet dog. I mean, they got some creepy stuff here is they know how to do it. They definitely know how to do it. Then I ran it in V7. So maybe V7 a little bit less. But that's even without weird. I would think if you ran weird too, it would even get creepier. Like I actually like this stuff. Like this is cool. Like I would play around with this. This is not This is not the This is not the homesteader of of V6.

Play from 1:12:26 8:88:88 1:12:26 Let's put it that way. But the homesteader baby, who knows if anyone wants to uh if anyone wants to give that a whirl and let us know how it goes for you, you know. Hope you don't end up with, you know, stuff like this, which is just so odd. And got a gun pointed at it. H I don't know what goes on, man. Midjourney, I think, got a little bit angry with uh Well, I'm I'm curious to see what, you know, what happens with this SREF stuff, actually. Um, show me something there. Obviously interested with the video, but I don't think we'll see anything for I don't think we'll see anything for at least another month. I wouldn't even think it's going to be June if I had to take a guess. But yeah, could be wrong.

Play from 1:13:04 8:88:88 1:13:04 We'll see. I'm saying August. That's just my guess. I'll put it out there. I'll be I'll be long on it. Well, also look at what trips you have coming up. You probably get a pretty good sense what's happening. Yeah, the next conference is July. There you go. It'll be then. You're right. There you go. That's correct. So, uh, anything else, dude? Anything? Anything else? Good. Nothing else. I'm uh I've got to do some more running. Uh I want to I want to I haven't really been able to play with Midream as much as I wanted to this week. And um got a lot of hours to burn.

Play from 1:13:36 8:88:88 1:13:36 Maybe like if I actually do have some free time too, I'll maybe just take requests and just run a bunch of stuff. Um it's not a bad idea. Or not a bad idea. Maybe we just unlock all the SRFs and then what we do is we take credit anytime anybody else ever unlocks it, shares it. It's like, "No, that was mine, actually." Yeah. Yeah, let's do that. Who cares? Never understood that. It's so weird to me. Oh my god. It's like, yeah, let's um you know, just so everyone who's still here, do all of this, you've already liked, you've already subscribed, but tell someone else to or share it or whatever. There you go. There you go.

1:13:48Final Thoughts + What’s Coming Next

Play from 1:14:15 8:88:88 1:14:15 We're gonna have some guests coming up, I think, over the next couple weeks as the summer probably slows down, Midjourney updates are probably going to slow down for a little bit. We're going to try to bring some some interesting people on here. We've got a few conversations teed up just so everyone is aware that they'll probably go into a little bit of a guest model every once in a while here so that you guys don't have to listen to me and Drew running homesteader prompts every once in a while on the end of a at the end of a episode. But if there's anyone you guys are interested in too, you think would be a great guest or you know you're interested to hear from, drop it in the comments, let us know. Um always interested to talk to people who are doing this stuff on a daily basis or just nerding out like us. So, that's my disclaimer for the end of the episode.

Play from 1:14:54 8:88:88 1:14:54 But, well said. Well said, man. That's it. All right, guys. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for sticking around. We'll see you guys in the next one. See you.