Ep. 35: ChatGPT Image Gen Just Went Nuclear! + A (Final) Midjourney V7 Preview

0:00:00Catching Up: Beer, Pasta & Big AI Moves

Play from 0:00:01 8:88:88 0:00:01 what's up everybody Midjourney Fast Hours podcast we're back man we're back we're back with vengance and uh we're doing things a little bit differently this week we're recording on a Sunday which is interesting suay it feels important right Rory because after all this silence we finally have some things happening a lot right of things happening too many happening there's some there's some big things happening it's like in his generation was dormant for 6 months and like nothing happened and now it's all happening all at once and it's out of control well you know we were doing a lot of traveling so you know you and I traveling back to back it was bound to happen and uh you know maybe before we get real deep into

Play from 0:00:48 8:88:88 0:00:48 that um you and I got a chance to meet up again in New York second time uh last week which was a lot of fun drink which wild that it's only happened twice somehow at this point but still we did it in person always good to see you brother always good to see you yeah it was good we if everyone uh is interested in you know the the charades that uh Drew and I went on we went out to get some Italian food we at we ate a lot I was full we drank a bunch of beer we had a good time we went to the East Village it was uh you know what what else you going to do when you're in New York there's other places to go but east dude I loved it I I that was a perfect little you know weekday night for me that was that was Stell man the food was great the drinks were good the vibe was good

Play from 0:01:34 8:88:88 0:01:34 at the spot nice little spot that you picked out there and of course you know we were talking about you know life in general but uh also like the shenanigans that are taking place here uh so you know as we record this right uh this is Sunday March 3rd March 30th that we're recording this podcast Midjourney V7 apparently it's dropping tomorrow still the plan apparently um and then you've also got the whole shenanigans that have just taken place with chat chpt and Dolly is it still Dolly I don't know like I I don't think so it's not even called yeah so they just scra that open AI you know kind of like and I

Play from 0:02:20 8:88:88 0:02:20 figured there would be something I just didn't know how serious it would be but it does make sense right like just all the linguistic um back and forth that you can do with the like it it kind of felt like there should be a next evolution of what they they've got taking place there and man it's juicy stuff it was like how did they I remember when Sora was being touted and they were like spewing it everywhere and it was like oh it's going to be the best image video generator ever I'm like why don't you just update Dolly like it's it's not great and then they just come out they just like come out of nowhere I remember uh if anyone has been listening to us for a while little little mindo drop from back in the couple guests ago he was he was texting me on the side saying he was

Play from 0:03:05 8:88:88 0:03:05 testing something big I was like what do you got up your sleeve and he goes I can't tell you yet just know oh really yeah oh okay so he was he was doing he was doing some stuff in there he was doing some stuff interesting ask me some promp he's like tell me some prompts that you've had a lot of trouble with and there was there's like a few randomly that pop up in my head that I've never been able to get on other generators there was one dude I'll never forget this one he asked cuz it seems so simple he's like can you just can you help me generate a goldfish swimming upside down I'm like yeah man that should be like really easy it was like Impossible on any single one I could couldn't do it you know what mine was the one I always go back to is I I was doing a one-on-one training one time and some guy was just like let me let me

0:03:08Image Gen Wakes Up After a 6-Month Nap

Play from 0:03:51 8:88:88 0:03:51 give you something I've never been able to get I was like shoot what is it he's like it's a tree branch getting caught on a sweater of like a girl you know in the woods and like the tree branch like snagging her sweater and I was like really ah I was like okay this would be easy yeah you know tried everything like every little every little tool in the the book probably spent like most of the call just doing that and uh got to the point where he was like okay well you know maybe I'll just grab like an image refer you know try an image reference and blah blah blah there wasn't even an image that had that out there on the web so I was like oh okay so like maybe there's just no you you know training data on this right like I mean but at the same time like when you go back into the history of you know AI image

Play from 0:04:37 8:88:88 0:04:37 generation it was all about the ability to generate things that didn't exist right in the real world without the training data because I think I think the first thing was like a green school bus back in the days you know was like one of those things that um you know shouldn't have been possible but it was but yeah the the the the old tree and the the sweater who would have thought that one yeah I remember sending it there was there was two there was two ones that I remember specifically that one the Goldfish and then another one was instead of it it was like someone's telling me can you in on a skateboarding image I did can you get a skateboard riding a human being instead and I was like like maybe it's a it's a very random idea but let's give it a shot no no beans on any of them and then uh then

Play from 0:05:24 8:88:88 0:05:24 you know send it to him and he was wild pretty close some of those are wild that you can't get I mean I haven't I haven't gone back and tried that that snag in the tree so maybe it's possible now probably but has to be there's no way that hasn't been generated yet I know man well hey you know when we met in New York right like I was doing some traveling you were doing some traveling when did you get wind of you know what's happening with with chat gbt because I know you were traveling internationally um you know did you how did you get that news I was uh I was I think it was before I went on stage and I was kind of just looking at it and I was like someone someone was sending me some of the stuff they were

0:05:59ChatGPT Goes Nuclear (And We Have Thoughts)

Play from 0:06:09 8:88:88 0:06:09 doing I forget who it was and I was like well that's goddamn wild cuz it was all text and that that's the big that was the biggest surprise was how it was nailing the text and I was like that's a lot of text not just a little bit of text that's like a whole page worth of writing of text and I'm like that's seriously impressive cuz that's nothing that's nothing close to anything at at the moment right like every Everything can do just enough text not like it couldn't write you like a full page worth of text and this one was doing it snap of a finger so that to me was interesting and I was really just kind of like well I got to go do this now but I had to get on stage so that's a whole other story we can we can wait for the end if we want to drop that one I got a

Play from 0:06:54 8:88:88 0:06:54 I got some good uh I have some tidbits from from Belgium but also some uh you know just some some chaos a little bit of course because nothing goes off without a hitch um during these things but it was yeah just what you need right before you're about to go on stage so amongst like 10 other things I mean it was that it was also reev dropping which was another interesting one I don't know if you got a chance to play with that one or see it but you know everyone you get to do open up X and it's like the Midjourney killer the the whatever killer the bye-bye Photoshop the you know all right guys it's it's good it's not it's not like you know the second coming of of Jesus here it's just tool and and you know like capabilities are

Play from 0:07:40 8:88:88 0:07:40 one thing you still got to get the adoption of the users as the second part of that equation I mean just because something could even be better you still got to bring everybody over so yeah uh you know it it's interesting man I I um yeah of course like it it was a little bit of a shock and I think for me I can't remember I mean I guess it was just like a random scroll on Twitter for me but it did have that that feeling right like that feeling I've I've gotten maybe a couple times on one hand since since the AI kind of thing is rolled out with you know gen AI tools and it was it was one of those you know it was just kind of like oh yeah like a couple things here never possible before you

Play from 0:08:26 8:88:88 0:08:26 know and obviously like we can we can talk through you know what is possible what are the good use cases for this what are maybe the use cases you know that aren't so great right now um but like the technology the capability I mean again this this feels like another Milestone moment in this whole sort of AI creative Journey that we're on right like a major moment this was it this was the one I was here's the thing like I didn't even it was like subconscious last week or two weeks ago I was generating a bunch of stuff that was magazine covered and magazine pages and doing it and I was like I don't know why I like the way this looks with text I have I've like never tried to generate anything with text or writing on it before in a while and for some reason I was just drawn to it and then this week

0:08:50How Creators Are Actually Using These Tools

Play from 0:09:12 8:88:88 0:09:12 it's like everything is that and I it's like I didn't even know I wanted text and now it's like do I really want text that much you know that there's a good thing and bad thing about having the community-led stuff with Midjourney number one it's epic and it's the it's the differentiator right like that we get to say what we want but there's sometimes we don't know what we want and like personally I never thought I'd want text and now I'm like well now that I have it I kind of like it yeah one of those things but it it it felt like a pretty big watershed this was the first time I've felt that way especially because if you look at the overarching landscape of like the sort of like the the social media like where the where like the tide turns on certain things like it's only been video for 6 months like no one's been talking about

Play from 0:09:58 8:88:88 0:09:58 anything else and now great Point all images right yeah that's a great point so it had to be powerful to shift the entire like social attention span yep yeah for sure like there are you know again there are some like we were just texting on this but like there are some things you can do right now like if you're a marketer or you're you know a designer on a team or creative on a team like that have instant use case out of the box kind of ready to go things and I'm like I think about it from the marketing perspective of okay like if you're a marketing team now you have the ability to execute creatively you know to create things that you never had the ability to create before and you don't have to be a mid

Play from 0:10:45 8:88:88 0:10:45 Journey expert I mean there are still things that Midjourney does and it again there some overlap there but right the big thing with Midjourney is just like there's a huge learning barrier you know that that exists there where this chat gbt thing you know it's it's pretty wild how how sort of like that barrier to entry has lowered now you still kind of need to know how to communicate in that in that style anyway but nonetheless like there definitely some some plays to be had here especially if like you're moving early on this and you're trying to grab attention it's not just like the the oh look at this this is cool kind of thing which is which is definitely there but

Play from 0:11:33 8:88:88 0:11:33 how can you put this into a business use case like there that's untapped at this point right so it's so it's a great uh time to really kind of sit back and think about how you want to leverage that yeah it's interesting because I was I was looking at it in a few different ways and I started to generate some stuff and the thing is like it's not a it's not a fix all like it's great that you can talk to it the the best part is you know number one it's so everyone knows you can you can utilize it in Sora and it feels like it just any other normal image generator or you can use it in a chat window and like talk to it intuitively which I like the option of having both but number one the the intuitive side of it is really nice because it can take sort of Direction on what's already been generated so you know I can say I like this image like

0:11:45The Language of Prompting Is Getting Weird

Play from 0:12:20 8:88:88 0:12:20 cut the saturation on it give it a little bit more contrast add some texture right like then it'll do that but the thing is you have to know what you're asking for still as as always when we're coming down to prompting and we're talking about it if you don't know what you're looking for or how to get there or how to describe it you can't just say like make this image better right you know what I mean like it's make this more eye-catching it's like all right that's not going to fly like you need to have some technical terminology that's a perfect uh example right because you still need to have this creative mindset behind it you need to have that vision and and I think also the constraint right now with you can only create one image at a time takes longer than takes longer than you'd like and then now you've got the the rate

Play from 0:13:05 8:88:88 0:13:05 limit you know which I was playing a bunch with it yesterday I just kept running this raid limit over and over and over and over again you know and it's like you know the ability to learn how to use this tool then slows down because you only can do it one image at a time right and and that part of it uh sucks and I know they're trying to figure that that part out but you know until that also gets corrected there's only so much velocity that can take place with this outside of just I guess curating what other people are doing and saying oh okay let me try that in my own use case or own sense right like action figure thumb YouTube thumbnail or whatever right but like again if you don't have that guidance or uh curation from somebody else in that

Play from 0:13:52 8:88:88 0:13:52 standpoint like it's just going to take you a long time to try things on your own there's still a language of prompting I mean I don't care how how whether you chat with it whether you have to like you know insert it via you know drop down buttons whether you have to type it out yourself like there's you still have to know like how to describe art or how to describe a visual because without it you still I mean it is just what it is you need to know what to say and like we we put in the we put in the grunt work on that where I feel like it's still the best Baseline skill set and this is this is a weird thought here like I'm seeing Midjourney and these other tools like branching like I'm seeing I'm like to me they were always sort of intertwined at one point and now I feel like they're branching in two different directions and it's not a bad

Play from 0:14:38 8:88:88 0:14:38 thing like I think Midjourney is going in like this creative like artistic sort of Outlet Direction yeah and I see like ChatGPT and some of these others going more like the professional business route yeah right cuz you know like we live in a bubble we're on LinkedIn we're on X and most of that stuff has is focused around business but there's a ton of other people that are using these tools for other things right like not just business so like I'm still seeing you know if anyone is worried that Drew and I this is like a somber episode it's like we're not using Midjourney anymore that's not the case I find it I find it even more the more these tools progress I'm sure they all will the more like you realize the little things that you can

0:14:55AI Image Gen Tools Are Taking Different Paths

Play from 0:15:23 8:88:88 0:15:23 do with something like Midjourney that like I just wish I had another tools like just the parameters alone just that not even the very subtle very strong the remixing the style reference the you know image prompting the editing and the in painting like all of that those little like things that we went over in the micro decisions episode and every other episode that we talked about you real how much like it makes a difference when you're trying to get somewhere versus just like let me hit let me type it out and hope that chat jpt gets it and then you wait and it'll too type it out and then wait you can't you can't iterate fast on something there and look it's going to it's going to develop and I personally really like the tool right now chat gbt like I'm I'm in like I'm not there hasn't been one that outside

Play from 0:16:09 8:88:88 0:16:09 of outside of this one that I've been like I'm in like now I'll go full full bore like you know tested the idiograms I've tested the flux I've tested all these other things you know Gemini yeah frames frames is great m j love it I don't want to the thing is like I don't want to text I don't want to prompt paragraphs anymore like I think that's where it comes down to yes I mean that's you know that's the thing and and I don't think that's the longterm it it's not going to be that way longterm anyway right like that was the beginning uh and that was kind of the cool thing too in a sense of the early stages of Midjourney because it was so token based in some ways right it was just like you could

Play from 0:16:55 8:88:88 0:16:55 you could tokenize something to then create this category that it would fit with in versus like being this prompt whz of knowing exactly how to describe those things right like obviously they're you can utilize both but yeah I I agree like the the long-term approach to this it's not typing out paragraphs right like it could be talking yeah out paragraphs but that's it's a different muscle and a different skill entirely right it's just like the difference between you typing something in the ChatGPT versus using the audio function yeah like those are two totally different prompts that'll come out of my mouth in those sense right yeah I mean you have to build those up so yeah I I think like the longterm solution lies in less effort which then leads me to either

Play from 0:17:42 8:88:88 0:17:42 something like voice or easyclick buttons or you know the variable like references that we have that that Midjourney gives us for example like those shortcuts with style image reference right character reference like those types of things yeah well the one thing that's that's probably the biggest to me and like we got this with Gemini two weeks ago and it's just like luras have become somewhat nonex like do you not need them anymore I mean yes you don't get me wrong you do need luras for what some of the projects you're trying to do but for simple things like turn this person from a front view to a side view yeah you know like you don't need that you don't need to do that anymore or like or just change or like use this person and put them somewhere else or use this object and put it in x amount of locations or

0:17:56Creative Flow in the Age of Automation

Play from 0:18:29 8:88:88 0:18:29 you know an X environment doing X thing that just that just seemed to happen overnight with like three tools and it was like how what why did why was this the hardest thing to do in Ai and now it seems seemingly you just say put this here and it goes there like it it was like you know I feel bad for I don't feel bad but I feel like there's like people that put in so much effort on things like that and it's you know now it's just like I I spent all this time training blow that's blowing my mind right now is and and I would love for you while I'm doing this to also pull your screen up and just kind of I know you've got some examples here but this was one I think this was the first one I saw where I was like oh somebody

Play from 0:19:16 8:88:88 0:19:16 literally just put text to describe what they want in certain areas yeah right it's like what does it say add soot to the left side of the face right some some stuff like that it's probably going to be very hard for you guys to see what's actually written here but these are all descriptors of what they want the final image to be right and there's the soot on the side of the face you know it's just like yo like that was a mindblower for me because it's like yeah never been able to do that before you know and I still in and then you know even getting into let me see if I have any like worse examples because I actually saw an example like here's a here's a more visible one right like you can see the text what got a little bit better in this one but then then you get into I I

Play from 0:20:03 8:88:88 0:20:03 saw somebody that had just had they had just had the um like an actual sketch pen you know waves in the back and it's like mountains you know like they wrote everything just like hand pen to paper and it picked it up perfectly and I was like you know like that was like one of those things it's like yep that's pretty damn cool you know what I mean so that's impressive right like to me that's impressive some of the stuff it's been able to do the thumb been blown away with pretty pretty crazy right like swap the face in um now I don't you know I need to try something like this because I think I tried it I don't I

Play from 0:20:50 8:88:88 0:20:50 don't know if it was this exactly but they are putting some more restrictions in place I'm wondering if that's actually what's going on with this rate limit I think they're also trying to like really figure some stuff out right cuz you had like that studio gibi Kickback you know some of these Brands you know like there was a crazy example I had in here I don't did I show you this if not I meant to there's like somebody created yeah that one was genius somebody created like you know like scam stuff you know and I'm just like oh this has the potential to really just get ugly quick cuz you know like people like us and that are listening to this podcast probably aren't thinking of it in this way but like to create a Sephora card with a scratched out pen or

0:21:05Ethics, Aesthetics, and a Bit of Chaos

Play from 0:21:36 8:88:88 0:21:36 something you know to say something doesn't work or you know to get a new card or what whatever it may be yeah it's like yo there's got to be some some measures in place here and I guess where I was going with that thumbnail image is um I was trying to do something last night with like even Illinois basketball I was like oh let me like see if I can mock up like you know like a a a hoodie with Illinois basketball stuff on it let me use like the chief logo which they no longer can use uhuh sure enough couldn't create it couldn't put like I had to like wizardly work around it right with with what I put in but it would not let me use like that Chief image as a like a

Play from 0:22:23 8:88:88 0:22:23 reference you know for that I had to really just kind of like do a loop around and so I wonder if there's like start they're starting to put some of these kind of like restrictions in place here and like monitor this a little bit more closely speaking of the studio gibl stuff can we talk about like the the best outcome scenario for that dude ever oh he says he's like AI is trash and then everyone seemingly trolls him all over the Internet by making things with dud in his style and now everyone who had no idea who he is knows exactly who he is right yeah there there's an upside to it I mean like it's like I didn't know what his I didn't know the name of the studio and of course now I know it it's like the most popular thing in the zeist in social media like is there more

Play from 0:23:10 8:88:88 0:23:10 Impressions right now on anything other than Studio like on the internet than Studio gibl like this the best PR campaign he could have ever hoped for from this like I mean it's just it's the whole feed you go anywhere that's all it is it's crazy the whole thing like memes famous Stills I mean everything everything the Lord of the Rings one was epic there it is I was going to say you know PJ right yeah that was awesome too and you know this definitely took a lot of time I mean put the whole trailer in studio gibli you know and I mean like this is one of those things where it's like you also got to put it in perspective um PJ's not getting anything out of this other than like sharing what's possible and and some attention

Play from 0:23:56 8:88:88 0:23:56 his way right so I mean like that's a pretty pretty big time commitment and some of these things don't actually have use case other than just like being cool and that's okay right so so like we also need to draw a line in the hand you know with studio gibli for example it's like well yeah you could be bad about it but what actually could anybody do with this meaningfully you know and I think that's where I like kind of run into a wall and I'm like well at the end of the day it's just kind of like this cool thing that you can do and so yeah like there's the conversation of like oh now this is possible you know like are we all in trouble blah blah blah is this going to ruin art you know so forth but it's like it's almost just like hey look like I could do this but like who's going to use it you're not GNA you can't you know

Play from 0:24:42 8:88:88 0:24:42 what I mean can't make a film with it it's IP it's IP so it's just like it's fun it's fun you're not going to and you can't make money off of it right it's like so so what's the big deal you know what I mean uh in that sense right yeah but I I I totally get it cuz I was again when I saw that one I was like this is just just you know being a hold up considering I'm a giant Lord of the Rings fan with my S shirt on right now right now right now I was like you know look I love those movies I love the books I love everything about it and I was like this is sick that one's that was I saw that one that's one of my favorites I hadn't seen that one that's great there's so many good ones man like it's that I saw that one too the one with the cat oh God and the the screaming Housewives there's so many so

Play from 0:25:29 8:88:88 0:25:29 many good memes that they've done but it's just like everyone found one yeah all of them yeah all of them but dude there was like I was like jonesing right because I was away and I was so busy like just running around Belgium you're just waiting to get a moment to yourself yeah and I got home last night after you know 8 Hour 8 hour flight probably 12-hour trip home sat down at like 6:00 and I'm like I got to go I got to go do this I can't wait anymore you know like I got to know what's going on here cuz I can't be this far behind cuz logistically a ton of things that I just talked about at this conference are like changed no like I was just thinking about that I was like hey if you had a

Play from 0:26:15 8:88:88 0:26:15 team training tomorrow I like I think I'd have to like rethink the whole thing right now yeah and I did good thing I said it in my in my talks I said it in every everything I got to you know I get to like the end and I'd say you know what's awesome is that we built all this stuff you know what's not awesome is that one tool makes us all irrelevant tomorrow it was like it was like bang right on Q and you know I was like but the the point of it is though is when these tools do come around if you do have the Baseline skill set of the knowledge and the workflow sort of capabilities and know what to do becomes so much easier to pick this stuff up look at you look at you sir coming up on the uh the second in the feed here top for gbt 4 image look at that yeah that thing's going right well hey so why don't we why don't we talk about this

Play from 0:27:02 8:88:88 0:27:02 for a second let me pull it up big screen so we can see it so we can actually see it okay do your thing let's do cuz it's uh like basically if we're walking through it right like the idea here is let me pull my screen up share screen one problem though what his his hat it's got a curve on it bro oh you know I I can only do I can only do so much so can you see this yeah let me uh let me make sure do you take over for mine I think so here let me make sure I'm not sharing real quick am I nope okay you're

Play from 0:27:47 8:88:88 0:27:47 good all right so the idea here what I was doing was like wait you know I have I've had like ad templates before email marketing you know templates before that I've sort of used either one like brief designers or one give people some inspiration on what I'm thinking in terms of what a layout could look like so I was like hold up let me Design This in figma like I just want to you know make this gray Square headline sub headline let's do like four Images across the top of like a product image but like layer those in and then on the bottom like feature icon and a description feature icon description and make the hero image here so I fed this whole thing to the chat gbt and then said you know basically I'm giving you

Play from 0:28:33 8:88:88 0:28:33 these four hat images right I'm going to give you these four hat images so 1 2 3 4 I'm going to I didn't have a hero image I was like basically generate the feature icons and it used the template like perfectly so I gave it the hats I gave it like the product description so I briefed it like a designer so I gave it basically but I but I like that you gave this a wireframe structure yeah versus just typing that out because also I you know I don't know how this works exactly but so far in my experience much much better when you can provide some sort of image reference versus texting exactly what you want even if you've done it

Play from 0:29:20 8:88:88 0:29:20 like extremely well yep even if you've been super clear for whatever reason that reference image Works 10x better and so I didn't yeah I love the when you when you posted this too I don't know that I really uh connected the dots though actually on this the wireframe to the image thing but that super super smart love that I picked that up that's great then it's a template CU then I Ed it for this one it's the same thing right like it's like oh okay now I can do this for a ton of different things right it's like now I just have to know that I can wireframe my whatever I want to create in there it'll do it where did you create the image at the image came with the pro well I said basically make a hero image of a guy in the water face half out of the water

Play from 0:30:05 8:88:88 0:30:05 okay so the image was done in in chat gbt yeah so here's the here's the problems with it though right like when it came out this is what it came out looking like uh nope this one right so still some of the small logos this hat was totally fine this nailed it this one I didn't just didn't like the icon right so I went into I went into uh Photoshop here wherever I don't know if I have the whole workflow lined out here you know I just erase the hats and then I took these hats removed the background and dropped them in like it took me 5 Seconds to do that and I was like I'd rather I'd rather take it 90% and get something that looks like this like me just playing with this layout in my head people don't people think this is probably like you know that would

Play from 0:30:51 8:88:88 0:30:51 take you five minutes to do it the regular way I'm like H not really like you know I would have to come up with this layout in my head test it a bunch of times like if I can it like this in squares so I know where everything should fit this sounds so stupid but it's like I think you got something there this way yeah I think I like that you got it cuz I would wireframe structure I would play with the size of this text a million times I would play with the spacing here a million times I'd play with the size of the icons the the size of the you know the text down here and that's why and that's why it's a tool in the process and not you know for for the most part right like there are and I think there are use cases is actually right like where you can get a a certain outcome and it's like oh I could use that right away yeah this one's got too many variables right why

Play from 0:31:37 8:88:88 0:31:37 like you're thinking about font you're thinking about spacing like you're thinking about the curing the lead you know the the size you know the format like even with that icon right like there's just so many little micro moments uh in little fixes in there that just aren't conducive to what's possible at the moment right and and that's where it's just like okay you know let's compartmentalize how this would actually be in my my tool belt so to speak right like and that's why it's important to really like play enough with this to really understand okay this is where it's like I could one shot this or I could two shot this and it's like pretty much done or this part right which can really be a great amplifier to the process to speed up vow anyway yeah you

Play from 0:32:23 8:88:88 0:32:23 know just and then the other thing too is like being able to understand like I want the the focal point here and how to like stack things CU I typically just the way that I like when I'm doing any sort of like add creative email things like that I like there to be a v right to the focal point so it's like if you're reading from top to bottom it's like your eyes sort of cascade downwards towards whatever it is so like this pops and I wanted I describe that in the prompt let me see if I actually have the idea of the prompt here you can see all my crazy tabs um we need better organization in in these these LMS dude I mean I don't know about you but I'm constantly like I've got a I've got one where I just ask random questions you know because I want create

Play from 0:33:10 8:88:88 0:33:10 I don't want to create a new chat every time right like so like it's just so hard to find things I mean even with the search you know like but you can keyword search within chat gbt and it'll give you options on like oh you mentioned this in these threads but then when you click on it it doesn't actually take you to the exact spot just takes your threads like I still got to find this like contrl f like scroll you know so is you know man just a personal rant but uh yeah I hear you on that but here's a here's a good example of like me telling it what to do and it gave me this image which has to me like the stereotypical AI look like the saturated skin it's way too clean in the background there's not

0:33:32What Makes Midjourney Still Feel Magical

Play from 0:33:56 8:88:88 0:33:56 enough like detail right like there's something about it that just screams AI to me like even the ripples in the water not not great so what I said was this is where this is where it got when I said excellent start let's emphasize on bringing more realistic texture and realism to the lifestyle image let use contrast in the environment making the overcast making the sky overcast and it less saturated right and then bang like that now because I knew what I was trying to get right like I wanted I wanted the human facial textures like I got that I got the overcast which made everything else pop it made the white pop better it made like the water darker which made all the whites pop and then you know some people are probably like this is the most average ad crate I've ever seen but I'm like for me to just describe that and to do it really quick like that you know

Play from 0:34:43 8:88:88 0:34:43 give it more contrast so that we also have like you know this darker line of the beard and the hat so everything is sort of like pointing towards the middle which is the the picture which is what I like the you know the the melon hat right now that's that's what was crazy is I was like okay that's insane and then I was trying to see if it could inpaint which it can right so I highlighted I said like let's add this logo now it did it it got it a little better on these but it screwed up this one right so I was like all right that's not going to play and then it'll it'll change the image even outside of the end paint too which which kind of drives me nuts it is kind of annoying CU then I was like all right give me the exact give me the exact prompt for this which I think is a good tactic for everyone to get used to here when it comes out with

Play from 0:35:28 8:88:88 0:35:28 something awesome and you like it ask it to give you the exact prompt so you can just like sort of take that and replicate it cuz that's again these are like the these are like the interesting things you can play with right and then like well let's go back to that I think that's a great point you know so you've got something you like what are you you're just asking hey look what did you what did you like organize my prompt based on what you said or what said let's say we wanted to create to create ads off this template what could you create a visual template I could use to create a prompt GP to use to prompt I was probably like like half asleep when I wrote this last night I can't even read my own writing basically just G me a prompt template yeah if I wanted to if I wanted to recreate this what would what would

0:36:09Prompt Tips That Actually Work

Play from 0:36:15 8:88:88 0:36:15 you recommend that I type in yeah cuz this one was epic the other one with the mood boards which I don't know I don't know if I showed you this one I'm sure you did but I was using yeah you showed me this one so here's the other thing was I was using this to create mood boards right like I kind of came up with a random one um or gave it a structure of one that I liked from something that I created previously and was like let's go down this rabbit hole but I started prompting it then like I got to hear and I was like oh I don't like this sock and I don't like that these two guys are like essentially the same yeah same thing yeah so like for in painting I tried just telling it get rid of this guy these socks it didn't really work right I kind of just like screwed

Play from 0:37:01 8:88:88 0:37:01 it all up and me like kept things where I wanted it to but not really then when I highlighted it I just took it into figma highlighted it in red and said just remove those things then it work much better so see see that's where it's like yeah learning from mothers at this point is super powerful because again going back to the point you can only create one image at a time and we've got this rate limit so you need to compound the learning how can you learn fast right so you've got your own exploration you also got the exploration of others that's a great Point like so for example I would have NE you know like maybe I would have never run into that or would have run into that months from now I wouldn't have known right so that's why this stuff is helpful like you you have to I think really be in the weeds with

Play from 0:37:48 8:88:88 0:37:48 other people because you're learning from the extension of everybody else's trial and a at this point so so true because I've been seeing people do things and I'm like oh I can like that when I saw the when I saw the sort of like sketch drawing on the thumbnail I was like let me go see if I can like create an ad template like can I actually like label the template and put it in a way that's structured so I can just read it and paste basically or read it and generate cuz that's huge and then I loved when I when it actually produced what I wanted awesome can you give me the exact prompt for this image if I wanted to recreate it you including the color code so this is another unlock everyone here it works with hex codes so love that gave me the prompt and then I like how it broke out surrounding images

Play from 0:38:35 8:88:88 0:38:35 include they gave me a description of every other image very very short but then you know like I took that into Midjourney and it looked good and then I took that into I turn turned that into Reeve can I let's see if I have it here took it into Reeve and It produced really well like real decent I was digging that it actually added the hex colors into here and I was like all right sick like so that's a it can be translated right from even chat gbt now to the other ones right so I was like okay there's there's something there's something sort of inherent here that's going on and it's very intuitive and I'm kind of obsessed with what I can do like

0:38:53How Templates + Moodboards Shape Results

Play from 0:39:20 8:88:88 0:39:20 these were just hilarious I was just having fun with these like this prompt I think uh shout out to shout out out to Retro and uh Patrick Mady over there for putting this one up and sending me this prompt because I was having fun with it it was just right an unhinged and then I added this conspiracy Manifesto on your real thoughts on what's going on in Antarctica uh in Fountain Blue in Fountain Pen blue ink on what does it say on it with corrections and Pen they are unhinged there are Doodles and weird Oddities uh crawled you cut out and stick lots of photo extracts magazin to show the point connecting dots like a detective suspect so make it shocking crazy and

Play from 0:40:06 8:88:88 0:40:06 hysterical right and then it's just like it's so random that it's so funny where does it say wake up sheeple just like threw that one in there that's awesome yeah that's awesome I mean I was I I did like five of these in a row I'm like let's just do it with aliens let's do it with the reptilians yeah baby aliens big foot I think I got down to D we were we were together how we were together for maybe four or five hours yeah just talking that did we even get into the alien stuff I don't think we did we didn't but we could we should have could we still could heard there's a few Anunnaki fans out there that we've uh that we've you know peaked their interest a little bit so that was good to uh that was good to hear but D I'm

Play from 0:40:53 8:88:88 0:40:53 just like I'm this one this one felt different today and I don't I don't know why I don't know why it felt different uh just playing with it like all day couldn't kind of put it down the other one that I saw I don't know if you had that one pulled up and I missed it let me stop sharing for a second which one the guy that was was building uh profiles he was building Json profiles off of like he was taking all the Prime energy drink images and throwing them into uh chat gbt and saying building like a build a Json profile off of this like it's so helpful in so many different ways you sent it to me but I don't think I have it saved here just a really smart

0:41:34The Community Is the Underrated Cheat Code

Play from 0:41:39 8:88:88 0:41:39 use yeah like this is why this is why everyone is everyone who has their own skills in some way shape or form as soon as you can get a little like access to something that helps like this someone was like oh uxui designers are cooked I'm like no they're in a they're in a great place right now like they dude have way ahead have you seen this one which one I was loving this people are taking pictures from The Accidental Renaissance subreddit and or turning them into actual Renaissance paintings and I've dude yeah and it's was just like yo this Renaissance painting thing is hilarious oh my God right like it's so good um [Laughter]

Play from 0:42:25 8:88:88 0:42:25 NE bro oh that's genius you know pretty amazing it just Blended control net and Lura and like everything into one thing like I don't know how it happened but you know what the other thing is this is my theory right how much how much like did they pump Sora to marketing wise to generate hype and then how sort of like sheepishly did this thing get released and now it's blown up I don't think any idea I don't think they had any idea how much people were going to like it how viral it was going to go they were expecting this with Sora and they didn't get it that's right I think because like just in general video is just a it's

Play from 0:43:11 8:88:88 0:43:11 just a a much more Niche thing than image you know like is not easy it's not it's not easy and like even this isn't easy but it does it it's sucess people are already using ChatGPT in tool and you just are there already so the fact that you can just follow those motions that are already in place and just do this also makes it 10 times easier like this was one thing that I was telling you about too right like layering the text right like you you know this is something you'd have to do in Photoshop before and like again I don't know how it works with you know spacing the letters and blah blah blah like I did try it with with

Play from 0:43:56 8:88:88 0:43:56 different type fa though and it seemed to pick up the ones that I was using that was only like I've only got a handful of examples there but I'm just like okay most of the time you want a specific font so if you if you got a specific font in mind can it actually do that right and then like then it gets into just like okay well then man I probably want to do this in Photoshop because like I want to I want different spacing in the lettering maybe I want to do something different you know like that's where the limitations sort of come into place but it's still very cool that if you've got something pretty final that you can just drop that in without having to know how to do it that said doing that in Photoshop is also not that hard and if you didn't know how to do it you could just ask ChatGPT to give you step-by-step instructions on how to do it right so like now they're

Play from 0:44:42 8:88:88 0:44:42 just there just so many different ways in my head spinning of like what's the new workflow what's the new optimal workflow because the work you know it's just all changed now but so that that t in the nightscape right there that would be the pain in the ass in Photoshop because it's because of the way the satellite isric right like all those little like those little spires and those little metal things like that would I would just like give up I'd be like I'm not doing this one I'm going to like extend the image upward and like just layer in layer maybe just on the top of it cuz I'm not yeah or just make the satellite just right here so you know like yeah then I'm not doing that yeah I agree totally I used to I that's how I used to make my design design decisions like I'm not going I'm not going that far every designer listening to this is like dude you're so lazy like

0:44:51Fixing a Janky Workflow, One Prompt at a Time

Play from 0:45:28 8:88:88 0:45:28 oh my God by the way remember when you were telling me about the fat fell season when we were together dude it's so good so I had seen one or two before you talked to me about but I didn't like I didn't know who did it uhuh and I didn't really see it be talked about like a lot now like I'm I'm I'm just getting it over and over in my feed so like this Bert Cher talking to Shaq about it and sha I don't know that Shaq had seen it but he's like pulling it up for him and he's like showing him the one in Dubai uh let me see if they actually show ah they don't show it but it's funny like seeing that reaction and that's good if you guys don't know what we're talking about right now which maybe go look up fat fella season fat fella season great use great fat fellow season also if you if you're listening by the 1% chance work

Play from 0:46:16 8:88:88 0:46:16 is awesome makes me laugh every single day I crack up at every single one of these videos it's it's so good dude I mean you can't I don't know if we can even put it up here cuz we might get we might get uh we might get banned we might if it has subtitles yeah yeah let's bounce out there you go go check it out for yourself all right really cool stuff really funny stuff actually it's just like we're very well done it's like a perfect comedic example this was one of my favorites the sance one right down the sance one was perfect can you make this in McDonald's ad boom right again like super cool it's just like well McDonald's unless you're working for McDonald's and even then you know

Play from 0:47:01 8:88:88 0:47:01 there's there's still so much refinement that has to take place so it's not like you could immediately apply this but it's still super cool that this has a social place in social communication right yeah um and sort of like that uh more like casual conversation that takes place in in social media right like that those social channels like that you can do stuff like this it's pretty neat man it is pretty neat because we've never seen anything like this no and Sam Sam Alman said the response to this has been I think quote unquote biblical and they're trying to catch up which leads me to which leads me to think again they did not think it was going to go this way this one was great I like this this was a very good example yeah use this

Play from 0:47:47 8:88:88 0:47:47 cosmetic as a reference create a homepage keep the layout same layout fonts clean style replace skin care content with high quality images of bread and pastries include a hero section brand mission um so this is good right like uh this is like maybe an alternative if you're going to keep exactly the same wireframe structure and then if you're not really like your idea that you came up with of providing the wireframe itself uh which is super smart but this turned out really good like now when you zoom into some of this stuff right like this dude's face is going to be jacked I'm sure but uh in like this looks weird still this is awesome super cool it's like dang to be able to like just one

Play from 0:48:35 8:88:88 0:48:35 shot that into something like that is insane so here's another little tidbit uh someone someone asked me today what the base resolution is on the outputs and I was like that's a great question so I asked Chad G gbt I'm like can you upscale so it can upscale it can upscale 2X or 4X and it can either sharpen or noise depending on what you ask for so no way yes and I asked it straight up I was just like let me see if I can find the message I'll bring it up cuz I was bring that up while we're talking about use case this is also super cool use case to extract a an existing item or object out of a thumbnail or an image and put it into a PNG format what I I

0:48:37Let's Talk Upscaling: The Good, Bad & Blurry

Play from 0:49:21 8:88:88 0:49:21 love I love that's super useful cuz then you can just build in layers like I'm in Photoshop this is kind of cool too like if you're just like yeah a brand a low L you know like you're just doing something really Grassroots or maybe you've got just something that isn't normally in shot in a studio even yeah right to be able to just put that into that space immediately and instantly pretty crazy here let me pull this up real quick stay on that page though because we got to I think going through this is good hold on let me let me share my screen here is the exact response if I can zoom in here can you upscale images yes just drop in the images you want upscaled and let me know Target resolution or size or 2x 4X or

Play from 0:50:08 8:88:88 0:50:08 specific dimensions if you wanted sharpened D noised or kept soft format jpeg PNG Etc I'll handle the rest yo can we run this experiment while we're doing this I mean probably let's see super interested in yeah I'm super interested in that I don't know what it just said up Cod interpreter session expired let's re let's restart this see that uh no huh maybe not all right let's just drop something in let's see I'm going to do one simultaneously too like I I'm so so curious about this let's see where's the one I just did let see

Play from 0:50:55 8:88:88 0:50:55 this uh yeah yeah I could take this drop this in what do we have here I think this image I dropped in is already upscaled so let's see if it does it anyway so if you're just listening to audio and the par chance which I mean I

Play from 0:51:42 8:88:88 0:51:42 wouldn't recommend definitely follow us on video we try to make this visual you know if possible but we're running we're each running different images right now we're testing this upscale thing so just hang with us here we're going to we're going to sort of run through this and just kind see what's possible here it definitely upscaled it yeah I'm at where I uh hold on where I pick no where is my huh why is it not giving me the pixels oh there it is I'm just totally missing it 2730 by 4096 so so yes we did 2x

Play from 0:52:29 8:88:88 0:52:29 upscale on that I guess I could 4X it didn't really sharpen it like I asked but decent enough actually did sharpen it a little bit I got way more sort of like noise in there not bad I'll take it wonder if I have a do you have what image did you do did you do a fuzzy image well that's that's the thing I'm playing with right now I took an upscaled image from Midjourney and looks to be

Play from 0:53:19 8:88:88 0:53:19 okay 2160 what do we got I mean it didn't quite well I I don't know so for mine I took a an existing upscaled image from Midjourney and I just said put this in 4k so because you know uh Midjourney doesn't do 4K but they will do like so I mean it did make the file size bigger I think it's I think it's like runways for like uh 4K upscaler where it doesn't necessarily creatively detail it just upscales yeah I'm G I'm

Play from 0:54:04 8:88:88 0:54:04 gonna try I'm going to try a the non upscaled version to 4K oh this is now we're just running into now we're just going into idea session here I got to start taking notes on things I want to try might as well but that's dude wow didn't know that so I think that's a whole whole Avenue to explore right like individual like postprocessing yeah right that's what it was with the that one image where I was like cut the saturation at like add the contrast add the texture and it just did it but I mean like I wouldn't thinking

Play from 0:54:50 8:88:88 0:54:50 in sense of like sharpening and file size though um it can do anything that can code right so like when you think about it it's all it's all code which is why I'm like can I can I create like custom presets in there now without them even having that option I probably can like if I could could I give it a Midjourney mood board and then being like here's all my like here's like the outputs from my mood board and say like this is the style I want you to apply now like basically here's a Json like this is what I'm talking about that that Json extraction yeah like when you can actually put a bunch of images in here and like extract a like a core profile from this like I basically just coded a mood board or a style code and then like apply this style now to my whatever image in here so like in the

Play from 0:55:38 8:88:88 0:55:38 like on the Fly here we're like reverse engineering stuff which I I think is probably pretty possible now anything with anything that you can ask for you know anything you can get in Json which now I'm going to have to try that cuz I mean that would be awesome if it's like you know here's my personalized code for my images now in chat gbt cuz dude what yeah right I mean it's interesting cuz like this is the this is the thing with it which is why which is what gets me so excited about it it's unlimited at this moment I mean Limited in what it can do but I was just like someone the other day I'm like can we just create a full

0:55:59Where AI Workflow Tools Need to Go

Play from 0:56:23 8:88:88 0:56:23 story board with it like just one prompt can it do like one prompt storyboard can it get like 16 frames it probably can you know like it can get probably somewhere fairly close like do the sketch like here's a sketch and then go and you know put that into magnific or something and do uh what's it called structure reference on it and then you probably have or you know probably does it better in chat GP I don't know but there's so many creative users for this I think it's the best social if there was a tool that was ever made for organic social this is it like this is the one you I think that's that's there we go I think that's kind of what we were we've kind of been alluding to I think that's a great way to like package that yeah I agree

Play from 0:57:09 8:88:88 0:57:09 man um here is let's see if we can actually see I mean for you guys that are watching this I doubt this is going to be something you're going to be able to tell the difference this though is not upscaled Midjourney upscaled um so like if we get can I actually yeah okay yep lines with a little cleaner yep you can see the difference and the file size is twice as big so right yeah 4K upscaler and you don't have to burn hours oh man I like this is

Play from 0:57:57 8:88:88 0:57:57 is this is just it's just fun again you know like I I like I like having like these sort of endless approaches to things and this is going to be like another treasure hunt like this is probably going to be if everyone is following on Twitter or this was almost like an emergency podcast like we had to do one yeah it was it it really was like you know it's something to use in addition to I used it the other day with like I gave it I just gave it a Midjourney image and in said change it to this style and it was just like okay great bang like applied the style to it right away and I think Midjourney is going to be like a like I said it's going to be like the sandbox to to the professional tool that people use I mean like I think it's just like the best

Play from 0:58:43 8:88:88 0:58:43 place to go play and maneuver and iterate and create I don't think these I don't think you can get anything as nearly explosive in chat gbt as you can in Midjourney but I think it can do clean I think it can do minimalist I think it can do like you know less complex which is what you know professionals need like they don't need you know exploding robotic faces like I like and stuff like that well I think okay so I mean there's a there's a lot here and I think what this you know just thinking ahe R like we're probably the next two episodes this one and the next one are probably going to be this interesting split of like talking about this and also talking about Midjourney V7 yeah so maybe we maybe we do a little polite segue into V7 because here we are

Play from 0:59:32 8:88:88 0:59:32 on the doorstep now you've got this stuff that just launched kind of shaking things up right um from an outsider's perspective or somebody that's not using Midjourney very heavily like this could seem like oh like I wonder did this just replace this right or whatever but like what are we really really pumped about for V7 with Midjourney I think it like we should should at least answer that question um can you can you pull up David's tweet by the way so that everyone knows why we think it's coming out probably when this releases today or tomorrow I think he uh I think there was a Tipping Point last week I think Midjourney finally got the idea that there's someone on

0:59:59Midjourney V7: The Rumors, the Hope, the Hype

Play from 1:00:19 8:88:88 1:00:19 their heels and probably going to pass them soon you know like from a just from like a user standpoint and like they're just not the you know they spent a long time at the top of the mountain no one could challenge my opinion in terms of aesthetic and now you have these players coming in left and right from two weeks it's just like Gemini reev ChatGPT idiogram dropped a new model you got all these people coming you know minia Max dropped a new model yeah all right so wait I didn't even I didn't even know minimac dropped are you talking about the camera yeah well they know they have a they have an image generator now on Mini oh no so I didn't I didn't know that interesting if you go back up to David's this tweet where go up up up up

Play from 1:01:04 8:88:88 1:01:04 that one with the with a pasted text that is that excited for next week and we're like it's got to be happening this you know some some sort of profound quote about just being down and kicked or whatever and getting getting back I don't know what it is it was just something that's like yeah we feels like we've been getting dragged through the mud cuz apparently on office hours last week that's where I was getting most of my texts from was people were like you want office hours I was like no oh interesting and they were like David sounding kind of like he's not too happy right now so I I didn't C how much of it did I catch I didn't catch much but what I did catch was the Monday thing right it was just like yeah we're we're getting very close it looks like it's Monday you know like

Play from 1:01:50 8:88:88 1:01:50 that's what we're prepping for I think that was sort of like paraphrasing but that was pretty much what he said like we're prepping for Monday and so I'm expecting it to drop tomorrow did you get a chance to rank I I did rank a few just on mobile so I only got like maybe a hundred in you know did you notice anything no because you know the way that they they basically described it in the announcement was this you know and again I'm like in my mind I'm trying to separate is this going to affect my ranking profile if I do you know like if I go through these or is this strictly just ranking for this so I was like trying to think of that I still don't know the answer to that but I was like okay I want to like

Play from 1:02:37 8:88:88 1:02:37 help or participate in this sense so I did go through all the images were you know but it did say that in the announcement said the images are not going to be good don't worry about that we're we're just trying to figure out which ones you prefer out of the two you can still skip right they said all the same thing things but like there still wasn't the clarity of like is this going to affect my ranking Prof my Global profile cuz that's the case you know I but at the same time I've ranked 18,000 so maybe it's not going to affect it that much I think you're good man I might be good I think you're number one in the world no no but like I don't know so you know like there I think it is important for us to talk about what to

Play from 1:03:22 8:88:88 1:03:22 expect with V7 right out of the gate cuz I I feel like there's going to be a little bit of the sense of disappointment right out of the gate because you're gonna you're now you've got this chat gbt not coming at a great time yeah so so we were already feing for this update for a long time we've been talking about V7 forever cue the cue the sandine forever but like that's we have and then you know unless you're listening to office hours you probably don't know kind of like the context they've given of like like Hey we're going to roll this out but like probably not everything is going to come right right away like there's going to things certain features will drip certain updates will drip you know but there are

1:04:06AI Upscaling Is Getting... Surprisingly Good

Play from 1:04:08 8:88:88 1:04:08 some exciting things that have been talked about right like the batch thing is kind of interesting they also mentioned having a 4K upscaler that yeah was interesting right like stuff like that um but yeah I I don't know I guess like I'm not overly hyped but I'm hyped you know what I mean I think something if I'm reading the office notes differently because I didn't get to listen I feel like I'm reading something different though than the last couple times every time I even read the office notes they all still feel ambiguous right might be this might be then I read these I read these this week and it was like upscaler will be will be you know handled in painting will be faster it

Play from 1:04:55 8:88:88 1:04:55 was like very direct it felt like someone might have had a change of heart over there and was kind of like let's get this thing going damn it like I I felt I felt like the the notes were way it could have just been the way they got summarized but it felt like it was way more direct like all right we have to start we can't start We Can't Stop like Vibe managing over we can't Vibe manage over here it's got to be like we got to hit deliverables and we have to do it now cuz if we don't look no one's going to stop the people who love the people who love Midjourney not going anywhere but it it is just like a the The Fringe 20 30% that are there because it can do what they need it to do and not because they love it right or maybe maybe there's more than that yeah you know that that goes away

Play from 1:05:41 8:88:88 1:05:41 that goes to the that goes to the highest bitter which is the newest hottest tool that can do exactly what they need it for right so like there is you know the other thing that was interesting too is that I saw David mention saying API is coming which I what wait what it was on a tweet he he tweeted it uh at someone on reped on someone else I wish I screenshotted it but said API API is coming and I was like okay I think they might have mentioned that on a previous office hours that they might API like version 6 and not version 7 um so it'll be like a softer model for the API which is I mean still that'd be awesome for version 6 to be out there but I'd have to find it might be in his replies

Play from 1:06:27 8:88:88 1:06:27 um cuz he was there it is oh no did you did you just pull out like a a perfectly queried search in Twitter that I didn't know you could do yeah maybe little wow okay I didn't I all I did was yeah all I did was go to him and there's search here so you can search within his or search within his tweets right but then also did you know about you have all like the Epic search hacks here I didn't even know you could push that stupid

Play from 1:07:14 8:88:88 1:07:14 button I kind of am the the search hack guy I don't know what what's up with that but um what was I going to show you too like I could type in I let's just type in Rory Flynn here um do you know about the advaned search no what come on bro okay so watch this I don't use I could go in okay well let's this may not work well for your name but let's just type in like Midjourney um actually so Midjourney you could use all these words you know so it's kind of like that Google set up and then you can go and sort by engagement right so it's like minimum number of likes so like let's just say this guy like thousand likes mentions Midjourney and

Play from 1:08:00 8:88:88 1:08:00 you can set dates blah blah blah search so now you know like this is how you you have tweet hunter or whatever but like you could you could find you know like best performing posts in a particular keyword right like damn now why did I not know is that new is that old and I just missed it I mean it's been around for a while damn I I was I saw this and I like instantly thought it view with the DJ thing at first that was a good one I remember seeing that one this is the one with the the uh the Rave in in Westeros or something right oh I see I never saw that one that's funny yeah so anyway advaned search people unbelievable yeah didn't even know that but there's I know

Play from 1:08:46 8:88:88 1:08:46 for a fact I saw it there cuz I maybe I did save it I'm Gonna Save the Tweet as something is like yeah that's coming so oh here you go though right going back to that you mentioned like it's coming plans for aggressive right high quality forx upscaler aggressive significant speed targeted for imping post trainining like aggressive see what I mean like the change in tone where it's like might work on this might work on that could be now could be then here you go too right you you pointed out the smart select yeah right and they did for those of you that don't know I mean I don't know that we've talked about it Rory have we but

Play from 1:09:33 8:88:88 1:09:33 there is that smart select option now in full editor right yes so in painting you can actually select the object um I don't know maybe maybe this is going too far off course but if you if we go into edit yeah I mean I I have to bring something up but if you go into full editor you now have the the ability to Smart select right like let's just I don't know let's just take a any image here and it's right here true so now right actually to be honest I don't know that I've you just click you have to click yeah and it'll select I haven't even done it yet yeah but you can yeah so now you got you got an actual object

Play from 1:10:19 8:88:88 1:10:19 smart select and you have to push either remove or isolate so if you want to change that this is where gets a little bit it took me like a second tell me tell me because I haven't used it and I'm sure a lot of people listening to this have not if you hit remove go over to the left hand side hit remove there now you imp paint the face if you go if you go back and you do or do undo and you hit isolate it'll just keep the face everything around so it's like that it's like that mask in uh Photoshop like yes it's very very Photoshop friendly they kept they keep going they keep going down the right path with that stuff on the editor you know this is lowkey pretty big actually why is this not in the regular editor would be my question well apparently they're going

Play from 1:11:05 8:88:88 1:11:05 to merge it is that what it's that's what it said on office I think I think that is what it said actually yeah let's go back to that for a second I didn't want to get too far off this because there there are to your point I think there are some really interesting updates here yeah what says um where was that that was right here realtime batch and service development real time interface likely dependent on optimize and then T CU that again when I was reading it I know they're summarizing their notes and they're using they their CLA or whatnot but the tone is different it's just a different tone yeah it's and then you see how you know because they were just like I don't know

1:11:22Why the AI Dev World Feels Different Now

Play from 1:11:50 8:88:88 1:11:50 if we're going to release the whole model if we're going to release a fast model first if we're going to do slow model plan Planned Alpha next week right so this is on 26 and then default activation one month time like it just it sounds like someone put the put the cracked the whip a little bit it was like let's let's go we got to make this stuff happen cuz I think mid they had someone leave the other week too they had I saw one of their employees left and went to either cursor or something like that oh wow didn't see that yeah look at this Rory this is interesting too noticeable over V6 larger improvement from V5 to V6 but less dramatic okay so bigger Improvement than V5 to V6 remember when we didn't think it was

Play from 1:12:37 8:88:88 1:12:37 that big in the beginning was just because we weren't going deep enough um and then the other thing that I will say that I noticed here off track back to the rating party I noticed a few things smoosh face looks like it's gone ooh there was a lot of with a lot of people in it and all the people had definitive faces oh sh that's number one I saw a lot of that which in in photo realism like those types of images I saw that I saw a lot I saw a lot less saturated skin tone so I saw a lot more like V5 looking skin like V5 looking images I'm I'm not taking like the images themselves I'm taking like the sort of patterns that I noticed yeah that like you know how V5 was darker

Play from 1:13:23 8:88:88 1:13:23 like it was it had like a darker aesthetic it wasn't like super right it was kind of you know what also a lot of the images in general um are a little are like slightly underexposed which I don't I don't personally mind no but somebody pointed pointed that out to me and I guess like I've just been looking at this stuff so long and and Midjourney has been like that default uh aesthetic in my head that I actually didn't notice it for a long time you know which is kind of weird but it's like I think you're right actually like like it's kind of like underexposed by a stop or two like really like two stops underexposed is that a lot in in in like uh I mean like like intentionally or I don't know like so for me like if if I'm doing some photography which I actually took my camera to this event that I did

Play from 1:14:09 8:88:88 1:14:09 when I was in New York just to shoot um I always underexpose a little bit and the reason for that is like sometimes you might catch a light that then can be blown out it's called like a blown out exposure and you can't fix that imp poost uh like where something is just like off the chart on exposure and you can't you can't course correct it so that's number one but also like if you underexposed to you just you have more tools to to manipulate the image overall because things aren't like just as bright out of the box already so it's great for like pulling in either direction really and that's why I always usually underexpose by like a stop usually but it makes sense cuz like you know anytime you see

Play from 1:14:54 8:88:88 1:14:54 overcast like o overcast to me always produces such better such a better look because things are defining diffused yep it's diffused it's it's consistent usually whereas the sun you know like that harsh exposure can really like shake things up it light it paints like you know you you bleach you bleach things out that you can't restore right I guess that's the idea of under that makes sense now all right didn't know I was doing that on purpose but yep you're doing it on purpose which says a lot about you actually that's pretty good brother no I mean I I learned that one the hard way that's like one of those things that I think when you're when you start doing photography anog you just run into it it's that's thing with analog film where you you couldn't you couldn't if that

Play from 1:15:40 8:88:88 1:15:40 that would screw up the whole thing right you would get nothing if you I've ruined great photos over it and so it's just like you know it's one of those like painful lessons that you learn and you never forget that's that's interesting I didn't even think about it in that sense as to why that would make sense to train a model like that too and the the other thing we should say here is that I don't know about about training an AI image model I know nothing about what goes into that neither do I I would love to know why can't they share that I mean like some of it some of it they could share I'm sure some of it they can't right because it's it's different probably dependent on the company but there probably is a baseline standard of a procedure that every like at least a part of it that every company does yeah I mean I'm just

Play from 1:16:27 8:88:88 1:16:27 know that because if you think about it like somebody like something like reev came out relatively recently right and it's like oh wait the image quality is really good it's kind of to me how like deep seek is how like deep seek has like seen or uh you know basically been able to like see all the code that's been produced by everything else and then it's easy to build a real to me it would be much easier to innovate on an already built model that's already out there to then like get Superior results cuz you didn't have to start from the ground floor you know you started from like five steps into the race and like okay now I can I can do something I can do it for cheaper yes because you know all the infrastructure and the architecture so I'm thinking something like ree probably comes in later in the game has seen all

Play from 1:17:14 8:88:88 1:17:14 the architecture has seen sort of all the white papers how everything's built it's like yeah we can get really good image quality right out the gate and then like I don't know what it takes to to do something like Midjourney where how many parameters how many features how many different things on the website does it have to like sort of link to and connect with it's not just like type an image and do it it's like there's much goes into it go because they yeah that's true too right like there's there are advantages to being the first mover also advantages to being second third right and uh knowing how to like play those positions strategically is important I I I have heard of reev like obviously I've been seeing reev I just haven't I I haven't played with it yet um they did spell turbo wrong here

1:17:25Who’s Winning the AI Tool War (For Now)

Play from 1:17:59 8:88:88 1:17:59 though is that the right Reeve is why does it look different than mine yeah yours looks yours looks totally different is it this is different re. art Reeve ai.art oh it's one of those rapper oh look at that dude there's one that got me the other day that was open it was like oh wait here we go open ai. chat gbt or something and it was like a total rapper for oh here it is yeah this is it yeah cuz there's some I mean there's some pretty good stuff on there I mean I was I was pretty impressed with what it could do oh jeez come on all right I'll do you want me to pull it up I'll pull

Play from 1:18:45 8:88:88 1:18:45 it up yeah so here is so they didn't have any of this when I was getting after it on the didn't have explore or anything like that but to me fashion really good other than that I found it to be like it still has it has like some good realism right like it misses on the tattoos here has some really decent like realistic style stuff when I was doing some sunglasses like this stuff don't you don't you think man at this point like if you're a reev or anybody that's going to be competing in this space you either have to be super Niche or you have to just be better at

Play from 1:19:31 8:88:88 1:19:31 90% of another thing to get the adoption because like if it's just one or two things or even a handful of things that's not enough to shake shake up a workflow because it's like you might have a use case or two but like you'd really have to be experimenting enough which is goes into a whole another Avenue right to then know and really um build up that Hab to be like okay I'm going to use ree for this specific use case I know for this specific use case I'm going to use ree but it's either going to be super Niche or it's got to be the king you know what I mean at this point yeah and it can't really be anything in the middle um unless it's just the long the long race the long game that they're playing right like I don't know I'm just like just as my

Play from 1:20:17 8:88:88 1:20:17 unfiltered thoughts on that not we didn't even know we were getting in Reeve but if I'm building something I'm either coming for a niche or I'm coming for the whole damn thing because like what I've seen with these other tools right like even let me think like flux maybe is a good example maybe frames I I mean frames already had video like Runway already had video but like I'm not going to use frames instead of Midjourney unless it's got the whole thing to Midjourney right because it's like oh I can't edit in there I can't very subtle can't very strong you know like can't do all these little you know finesse uh techniques that that really matter when you're trying to go from start to finish totally and that's where I think like

Play from 1:21:03 8:88:88 1:21:03 this one you know from a from the standpoint of what it's good at like I'm noticing that like it's it's really much better at Fashion like this one even off the gate like you see some of the what I like about in some of the realism here is it has things like the blemishes right like it has the freckles not the not the like overdone Freckles but it has like some beard stubble like he has even hair his W his hair Parts in waves like he has sort of like could be construed as a unibrow that's going on behind it so yeah you know like there's some there's some good sort of realness factor to it which you can see it probably gets built on this is where I was having the most fun with love those bro it's super clean it can do minimalism and stuff like this like super clean so like what

Play from 1:21:49 8:88:88 1:21:49 were your um you know look like I I guess what I'm curious about like with something like this your approach are you trying to prompt similar like what's your first move are you are you then taking a prompt that you would have done in Midjourney copy and paste seeing what how it interprets it first or you just kind of like typing something from a whim so what I did was in Midjourney some of the images I created with the when I was in like a little prompting Rabbit Hole I just took those threw it into describe so I didn't have to think about a prompt and then threw it in here just copied the describe prompt and was like all right let's just roll with it and then cuz when you put it in here it it

Play from 1:22:35 8:88:88 1:22:35 changes right so I can it it has an enhanced version which actually makes the prompts pretty decent um so like if you go to the edit prompt here yeah just shows you what it came up with and then you can shift certain Elements which is decent right like can do or other you can glossy flashback into Mac gray paint actually has some good some decent like examples so then you can sort of vary on this like a remix um in your edit prompt but you can turn this off but I I've kind of been seeing it get some better results like it cuz this one I ran with just like a regular prompt without the results without the enhance on and I was like all right it didn't get me exactly what I wanted this looks like when I jack up you know a mid-journey image

Play from 1:23:20 8:88:88 1:23:20 here and there but this was when I was running it with the enhance on and I was getting stuff like this which I was like okay yeah like this is bro I love those haven't seen any of this looks great these were good I was like this one you know like I could screw with I could screw with these compositions and the way that they put put these things together and you know a little a little magnific upscale here going to go a long way yeah so yeah I was you know I was really digging some of this stuff that I was able to produ like right off the bat then I was trying to get a you know there we go Trump and Kim Jong Un yeah playing basketball in uh like what's it called the which now I can

1:23:58Wild New Features We Didn’t See Coming

Play from 1:24:06 8:88:88 1:24:06 probably do in ChatGPT like the uh cover like the what's it called White Men Can't Jump I was I was gonna say it's funny that I picked that up I was like but yeah I was I was just overall kind of impressed with some of the the realism and the detailing in this it didn't hit on some of the stuff that I was doing on Midjourney like some of the car stuff wasn't really getting there wasn't really getting there with the Mario stuff and Luigi stuff I was doing but it was just like this like I think this is like it's where it wins like clean fashion luxury aesthetic I think it's going to win there it just I mean I think that's that's that's cool I mean that that stuff speaks to me too and that's kind a place right like but dope man you never know I just thought

Play from 1:24:53 8:88:88 1:24:53 it was a an interesting other sort this is the first one in a while that I saw like a little creative spark you know like oh like idiogram is good like I went I got access to that one before it dropped and I went on and it's it's just like so coherent and so clean that there's no like it's too sterile like it's that that was my feedback I'm just like it's it's too like there's no risk like it doesn't take any risk which I don't you know Midjourney is all risk that's why it's great Midjourney is full send on every prod it really is though right yeah and you know you never know what you're going to get which is great then but

Play from 1:25:39 8:88:88 1:25:39 then there's you know there's the ones that it just feels like you have to write a paragraph and like really like go in a weird direction to get anything that makes that makes it look explosive but I think I'm excited I'm excited v7s coming I think every you know if Omni reference works if that is like the pillar piece I think we're all going to be very happy yeah I think I think a lot of that is going to be a lot of this will be sort of overlooked because that's what everyone wants they want they want what chat gbt is doing right now yeah yep right so and this this this feels like a more again like the one big hang up just to wrap

Play from 1:26:24 8:88:88 1:26:24 this kind of up is that that piece about just trying to change a certain element and then Chad gbt make you know changing other parts of the element that's that's the difference right it's like oh if I both can do consistent characters I'm going to take it over to Midjourney yeah you know because I don't want to change everything I just want to change isolated parts of that process I would not expect I would not expect them I would not expect Midjourney to compete on text though that's been mentioned a number of times and I would I don't either like I and I think that's I thought you you you placed it perfectly in the sense of if nothing else like strip everything else out chat gbt that what they just launched great thing for social I think that's it's it's another

Play from 1:27:10 8:88:88 1:27:10 way to communicate things visually which I think social kind of needed yeah I mean what do what are you going to do outside of write text provide an image that you've created do a video or drop a meme or a gif I mean that was kind of like it that was kind of like the tool belt now this is like a whole new tool belt right here yeah I dig it I'm I've been enjoying social media again too because it's just everything is everything is something random that I wasn't expecting yeah except for Studio G gibli I I didn't you know I think I expect that now think that guy that dude just like had a heart attack if he's still I don't I think he's still alive if not he's rolling in his grave but unless he just like reverse engineered like reverse psychology to us and just had the best the best marketing campaign

Play from 1:27:56 8:88:88 1:27:56 in the history right of marketing yeah he was secretly working you know in tandem Possible Oh man well hey brother man it was it was man I was excited to do this one felt good to catch up glad we got it glad we got to see uh each other last week and um yeah guys we're gonna we're gonna get back together this week too because V7 is dropping we got to go into that emergency pod there so let's see what happen happens man um get some rest tonight it's kind of like adult Christmas it is kind of like adult Christmas but the last the last thing I will leave everyone with here if anyone is doing a presentation in front of a large number of people do not use figma as your as your presentation software

Play from 1:28:43 8:88:88 1:28:43 that it will not work oh no and if figma if you're listening help like please why do you have a slide deck presentation software that doesn't work with clickers or can be downloaded in any way shape or form outside of the cloud or outside of a a webbased platform I can't even remember the words right now because it's late cuz it has to be open via with with Wi-Fi so it was a whole it was a whole situation 10 minutes before I went on in front of 2,000 people my deck did not work I feel like now you've seen everything though so I mean like you're only getting more and more prepared for curve balls to be thrown your way last minute at this point but that one that one was that one was pretty Next Level me downloading it into a downloading to a PDF and swiping it slide for slide

1:28:59Wrap-Up

Play from 1:29:30 8:88:88 1:29:30 into a Kee no notes all Vibes up there just videos didn't work things were out of place it was just like unbelievable no one cared but I was just like ripping through it I was like no one else knew except for you either so well hey man whatever like And subscribe damn it do it just do it and we'll see you you made if you made it this long all it is is one little tap just one little tap hey anybody listen this s and you haven't yeah come on come on come on just a little bit just a little a little tap we're not we're also not desperate so we're good but uh we love you guys we're gonna we're going to catch up on V7 here shortly we'll see you guys in the next one thanks for joining us later