Ep. 30: Midjourney Moodboards The Deeper You Go, the Crazier It Gets

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Play from 0:00:00 8:88:88 0:00:00 what's up everybody Midjourney Fast Hours podcast we're back so last time we talked a lot about moodboards describe all that good stuff today I think we're going to dive a little bit further into mood boards we're going to talk uh some of the updates that Midjourney's got coming up with V7 couple weeks away there but there's some really interesting anecdotes that were mentioned on office hours as it relates to their future plans optimism around video and things like that so we're going to get into all that I think just in general with M boards kind of Addicting man dude it's like it's what one thing feeds the next like I create I'm like oh let me bash some mood boards together and then I get something I'm like let me create a mood board out of that and then like before you know it I've created like six more and I'm like all right I stop it feels

Play from 0:00:46 8:88:88 0:00:46 like we're getting back to like the older Midjourney models where it was like less about creating for an exact thing sometimes and more just like having fun with raw materials you know yeah cuz there's you know I now take some of the stuff that I produce and try to run it through like my my gpts to like reverse engineer it to figure it out and then I rerun those prompts they come nowhere close so it's it's just you can't even you can't even text prompt for this stuff it just doesn't make sense so it's we're Wildland now yeah we were just talking about this and we were just saying cuz is weird even a necessary parameter anymore cuz now you can just break into these weird levels that I don't even know that weird could tap into now with with personalization mood boards smashing mood boards srf Cod you know like doesn't even matter it's interesting

Play from 0:01:33 8:88:88 0:01:33 because I've been you know like when I started doing mood boards I was like I wanted this really tight aesthetic like I was trying to create an srf you know I was trying to create an srf code and then I'm like well that doesn't work for everything because it's you know it takes a lot of time to sort of like build the database to that I'm like what if I go more broad so it's kind of like this sort of mashed up aesthetic and then it's like oh that's cool but then it's also like well maybe I just want certain elements that I want to mix and match so then you go back to creating like these little tiny small things for examp example I created one the other day that was just like like a film negative style I would put five images in it but it adds like a really nice sort of effect to you know when you stack it with something else so like if I'll stack it with something that's really super creative and colorful and like have this like film negative sort of mood board that I attached to it it's

Play from 0:02:19 8:88:88 0:02:19 a nice little like blend oh so so maybe even the idea that not every mood board needs to carry the same amount of Burden correct right one could be a little bit more of a hey this is a nice little little seasoning to put on your little Bland chicken and you can stack this with one of these other mood boards that that provides a little bit more like the tastiness and appetizing aspect yeah cuz I think like I saw some of yours right like you have like a chrome one right that's a very to me that's like a very useful like universal one to just like plug in with something else so like you know I'm thinking like would CH would Chrome and like black and white really mix well or would Chrome and you know something like my film negative work really well together right where it's

Play from 0:03:04 8:88:88 0:03:04 you're starting to think of oh we can go really big with these ideas and like super broad sort of like at you know like mood boards that kind of go a million different ways we can go like really tight or we can go like really micro and I'm liking this really micro thing I don't know why I just feel it's fun to sort of like because like you get to that certain point where you're down a like a rabbit hole with creating it's like okay like this is this is working this is cool let me try like one extra thing you know it's always like the one ra what happens if I multi prompt this instead of you know and then it's like oh now I have these extra mood boards that dump in here because sometimes you get to that point it's like I it's so good but I just want one little thing like I was realizing the other day that I was getting these really crazy images that I wanted but they were so like overdone in terms of

Play from 0:03:52 8:88:88 0:03:52 like texture and then I applied like my little iPhone mood board to it and it like brought it right back down to reality like exactly where I wanted it to be see there we go so there we go to me it's like all these little you know if you have ADD it's the worst thing ever just true stuff in true now you guys we mentioned this before we'll bring it up again because we're almost there yeah we're almost there we are putting together a whole mood board dock right of our premium style mood boards these are again high quality tested things we've been playing around with for weeks and that work that work and I think you know we we've combined our efforts here and really put these together so I think

Play from 0:04:39 8:88:88 0:04:39 one thing that we can do and this is like just a little preview of what you can expect if you were to uh grab this when we release it so I think we're going to release this in the next couple days here we're just putting the final touches on it but we could even play around with these today right like if we want to just kind of show you guys how these work uh to give you some uh inspiration there whether you want these ones or you're creating your own I think it's still helpful to kind of see how somebody else may be approaching this in terms of prompting on top of it the type of results that we're looking for how we might you know interpret it to see if we need to make any tweaks and so forth but we're getting very close here you can see I've got six in here Rory's got his I think he's got eight here then we've also got

Play from 0:05:24 8:88:88 0:05:24 some bonuses we're just throwing in right like so I think there's like another 1 2 3 four five six 7 eight 9 10 so in all we're talking what 24 26 mood boards that you get access to that you don't have to spend time on so if these type of Vibes which I think there's probably something in here for everyone probably going to save you a ton of time if you want to do it yourself but um yeah I think this is probably been one of the more fun things we've played with with Midjourney since what style sty like style codes Maybe yeah that or srf or when they introduced like yeah s was so big dude yeah srf was insane that was that was a

Play from 0:06:11 8:88:88 0:06:11 lot of fun you know what I've been while we're talking about that I've been doing a lot of trainings I know you do workshops too it surprises me how many people don't know about the waiting of the references yeah so so they know that there's like an image or a style thing and they have a general idea how it works but they don't really know to weight it yeah and and most of them don't know about permutations right like Y and so like you you start to factor that and give that to somebody every time I love seeing them because they're just like oh it's like yeah you could be running this with permutation speed up your workflow plus you can have more control over exactly how much is being applied to no-brainer right like so it's always surprising like here the things that people don't know yet you know even

Play from 0:06:57 8:88:88 0:06:57 though we kind of assume that they might it's it is interesting because I I do I send it ahead of time now on these little trainings that I do I'm like and I ask specifically about s and style waiting just to get like the idea to see how far I have to go down you know that hole when I'm explaining it it's a big portion because it's like if you don't know SRA like I don't know you like cut you cut your like leg off at the knee you know you're not going to be able to use it the same way but so like yeah do you know what srf is how comfortable are you with it do you know how to wait it and most of the time if it's like I'm super comfortable and then I get to to that I don't know how to wait it I'm like okay sure like then you don't really know cuz you're not able to control it so it's dude it's it's very weird some of these things but you know what I remembered to play with yesterday been a while Style Style version so oh

Play from 0:07:43 8:88:88 0:07:43 did you dude sv1 still produces bangers when I put back on there oh yeah for whatever reason I haven't run anything on those in a minute by minute I mean maybe a year yeah I just remember that you could do it because I was adding so I was you know if you guys want to hear the the weird the weirdness that was going on I was multi- prompting in the prompt I had about six mood boards four profile codes two srf images and then I'd use Style version on top of that to try and figure out if there would be like significant difference it was a pretty big one you're giving me anxiety just think dud I know I was like wait what happens if I do this wait what happens if I do this ADHD i d I'm pretty sure this is making my ADHD worse just going through this process I don't help

Play from 0:08:29 8:88:88 0:08:29 I know that you know because it's like dude when you get down that rabbit hole and it's just like dude an hour or two hours disappear and it's like what if I even been doing I don't even know if I did anything productive other than just like just following wherever this takes me it's also when you find those Banger prompts that are like super Broad and like very like not like I'm writing like a paragraph like I'm writing you know 2D math equation four-dimensional space and then like it's just it's so Random the output and you're like oh that's really cool I mean try with this bang okay whoo all right so that's how I lose 2 hours at night when I should be in bed we've talked about this before but like if you're an artist that does digital art that's why it's so I find it so fascinating

Play from 0:09:15 8:88:88 0:09:15 and confusing how you can stay within one particular Lane so strictly and this is your art right yeah because dude you unlock something like that and you're just like I had no idea I'm into this stuff but I like this this deserves exploration right and this deserves you know eyeballs other than just mine right it's just like why box yourself in I I I can't even tell you how many different Avenues I've gone down of both things that are very predictable that I'd like and then also unpredictable that I'd like and it's just like if I'm trying to share my work which I've been asked to share my work too it's like how do you how do you box those things down right because when you create as many images do and then you're

Play from 0:10:00 8:88:88 0:10:00 also trying to say what images really Define my style because yeah Art's beautiful right like there just so many interpretations I don't know how people stay in a box to me that's boring like I could go down that route for a while and a have and then what then what like there's no more joy right no Evolution it's just iteration of same it's not a bad thing I don't think there's anything wrong with it right like some photographers have a very specific style to do the same thing over and over and over over again really good 100% I just don't get it you know what I mean like I like it's not me it's not me no like even you know like the things that like the Happy accidents which I like where I'll like you know I'll be get in the prompt bar and hit up to get the last prompt and I'm you know attaching a style like I did this the other day

Play from 0:10:47 8:88:88 0:10:47 where I Y let's go in show share your screen let's just get in I musically I basically did the wrong I attached the srf image to the wrong prompt that I wasn't trying to do and it came up with something sick and I was like all right what's what's run with this now but you know this stuff is really fun like I just I have no idea sort of where everything's going to go every time I do it but you know again like this is a randomly last night just doing you know liquid infusion of color just seeing where that goes with like seven mood boards attached to it and you know again like I'm not not in love with some of the stuff leave that up for a second I'm going to I'm going to run this same prompt and I like let's just make this sort of like an interactive episode here but like I'll take this stuff and maybe

Play from 0:11:34 8:88:88 0:11:34 we just you know or we could even use we could use rooms rooms yeah people still do people still use rooms maybe us but like this would be a perfect example but I'm gonna take that let me just take this I'll run it with mood boards to we can just kind of see where some of the stuff takes us but yeah because this is you know the thing the one thing that I like to do is just like these these Japanese movie posters that I've been running with like so many different variations of everything you know just to try and find like again how is it all how is it all affected and interweaved yeah and like how can how can this all work interwoven wow look at us don't you come on man because yeah like when I use

Play from 0:12:20 8:88:88 0:12:20 just like the standard profile here right like cool like that's just the profile that's built on it pretty awesome but then when I you know then when you start going like let's go show me that prompt again that you had up for a second I'm going to I'm going to run that while you're looking at these two the liquid infusion intricate details okay got it yeah and you're running this in a 34 running it in a 34 if you want to get you bastard like you always do and let's just do yeah style 600 okay I'm gonna run this with some M boards keep going sir yeah cuz I'm saying like you know every once in a while when you run these with these mood boards it's like oh let start with the mood then let's add another one see how it looks let's add another one see how it looks like I was doing it with this prompt too

Play from 0:13:05 8:88:88 0:13:05 this two-dimensional text equation in four-dimensional space right and you're getting really sort of intricate weird things but you know I'm not I'm not necessarily knowing what I'm going to get with this I'm just seeing how crazy Midjourney can get which you know in some of these cases it's you know pretty crazy which is where it's like layering the text especially here in like the midr everything SC what was day can weave more four-dimensional effect to this image but it's like let's get this prompt going and then that's the problem was when this prompt starts to go like where does it go from here like mood board profile multi- prompt whatever right cuz

Play from 0:13:54 8:88:88 0:13:54 I might take this and be like oh this is sick let's try you know this and I love how the text here to Me Maybe I don't love this image that much but I love how that you can see that there's text obviously forward facing there's text over here facing to the side it's like pushing out from inside of a cube and then there's depth behind the cube like it is just floating in space so it's really crazy you know that might be like okay cinematic unclear physics Let's Do for oh I spelled Dimensions wrong maybe that's why yeah like let's give this a multi- prompt let's do uh do this at like 1.3 details let's change this profile back down to select a couple P codes here maybe we'll start with this we'll add

Play from 0:14:40 8:88:88 0:14:40 some of this we'll add some of this some of this and add a little bit uh this all right so now I got just like seven things selected this is where it gets you know you go down the rabbit hole and it's like okay where the hell does this even go just I don't know but I know at some point I I mean I know it's an infinite number technically but how much closer do we get to that infinite number if there if there is a number with unlocking this because now you've got like all right this is I don't know if this is going to come out the right way but you know there there are images that are very straightforward there are all types of ideas for images that make a lot of sense there are are inspired

Play from 0:15:27 8:88:88 0:15:27 images some of which can make sense some of which are totally unlogical but are beautiful now we're getting into this space right where it's just like consolidating so many years of what normally would have been a trajectory of the technology that we had where we would have never gotten here like in a hundred years if technology stayed the same now we're unlocking so many of these different corners of what's possible with images like what is happening I don't I don't even it's hard to even comprehend this cuz I don't get it cuz I'm saying like oh you know what I might not like I might not like this this is the problem right maybe it's like oh I want I want more of this oh maybe I should change some of the you know the profile here to give it a

Play from 0:16:12 8:88:88 0:16:12 little bit more let's give it this let's take out let's take out this let's maybe add some of this iPhone and then you know let's get rid of these when you're using the mood boards you generally I think we've talked about this before but are you generally still leaving your Global profile on top and you're stacking yeah yeah because most of the time what else is interesting too which you can do here is with your Global profile you can then also wait that I've noticed you can wait your Global profiles vers the mood boards too so you get a little bit different of a result just like a little bit heavier on the global profile and personalization versus the mood boards so something to consider because there's

Play from 0:16:57 8:88:88 0:16:57 you know again as we said you can go one million different directions with this kind of stuff and it's never ending never ending and like this one here again this one's pulling more of my personalization code in versus this like this one actually has a really cool effect to me like the way that that's shot through seemingly like a window and then you see how like the layers of depth keep going back not saying it's like a great image or not but this is where I'd start to find like oh okay this is more more interesting right like I maybe I don't like how this is all jacked up here in terms of whatever creativity is doing but we have like a window into another dimension yes and I'm like all right I know it's I know it's kind of maybe potentially screwing this up here right so maybe it's like

Play from 0:17:42 8:88:88 0:17:42 take this out maybe I take uh one of these other ones out let's take this take this out just now just for reference right you're using like all these mood boards I'm seeing you pull up right now these are all in that mood board premium docked uh some of them yes some of them no majority of them yes but I'm saying like looking at your screen right now you've got atol you've got Japanese movie poster you've got Cote you've got bionic those those are all in there they're all in there so I mean like you know I find this to be super awesome but some people might not you know that's really where I like you know the the one for example that I think is just the most fun to me right now is these Japanese movie posters because I'm

Play from 0:18:29 8:88:88 0:18:29 using like the same prompt basically you know Japanese movie poster closeup of subject whatever and then it's just and then it's just mood board bashing of putting everything together and seeing what which most Insanity that can come out of it so you got a close-up editorial photo of X whatever you want it to be layered composition with levels of depth and uh levels of depth and texture and blocks of text block of text go wild from there and you're running a 34 Q2 styze like 650 has been like a sweet spot for me there yeah I'll run I'll run a bunch of these too because you can see right like this is just what running it with just the the one mood board code and you get like

Play from 0:19:15 8:88:88 0:19:15 a you know decent out outputs but then there's also running it with like a bunch yeah and like getting you know like Charizard here well I had I think I think the Japanese mood board stuff's dope I was playing around with that a while back and I love how the um I don't know you know like if you're Japanese you're probably like those symbols don't mean you know but for us dude like you know the Japanese characters just it's just so you know not novel looking but unfamiliar in a sense right so it just kind of like it almost feels like icons or you know like motifs that that just kind of feel cool to play with too yeah it's like art you know like it looks it just looks good like I'm you know I was just like

Play from 0:20:01 8:88:88 0:20:01 obsessed with this Godzilla one the other day as I couldn't stop prompting it because then before that it was Darth Vader that I was obsessed with trying to do in this style right like I was loving this stuff I'm like it just looks so different than what I'm used to getting and again it's just bashing everything together and sort of playing with I think it had some of your profile codes in here too at at one point you know throwing Pikachu in here see what we'll get let me let me ask you this for that one's dope what out of of the ones that you play with cuz you're you're mashing mood boards a lot I I really haven't since well I really haven't since I guess the beginning of this but which ones do you find of yours like work really well together so I've been liking the like sinote and this aethereal one together work very very well so it's

Play from 0:20:47 8:88:88 0:20:47 like more of like a super gritty dark high contrasty with like a very like ethereal sort of soft it's like blending two two opposites together like that's how I like the Opposites right like I like putting my black and white one with my super colorful one right I like doing the ju position there cuz you get some really cool stuff um you know even like using Sr within them starts to get some really cool stuff as well like taking the images and like the ones you really like putting those as srf with the mood boards um then again like this is one of those where you have a bunch with Darth Vader like I'm just pumping a bunch of different ones into here to try and get some some really like interesting results to see where it is and that's

Play from 0:21:33 8:88:88 0:21:33 why I keep saying they're all like parts of a hole right like I like this this bionic one for yeah like the bionic one is super simple like I'll show you because it's it's very intricate in terms of detail right so it's very fun to play with let's just put okay keep this on for which the other one that I have selected here bionic take this off just say like I don't know like cinematic still cybernetic anatomy of a snail and then and this is like again we're running just like the most random prompt here but I love I just love the intricate details of this one and like it's super like technological in that sense like a lot of Gears a lot of like little things

Play from 0:22:20 8:88:88 0:22:20 that go on something like this you know like a very intricate sort of yeah aesthetic within it but you know there there's way better way better examples cybernetic anatomy of a snail this man said it's just down that that rabbit hole and this feels like Matrix viby green yeah Matrix eing it with a bunch of different other like random sort of images that have been put together I was loving this one it's like the dog like kind of has the realistic dog sort of texture built into it there's so many good ones man I mean like the what was the office the uh some of these were some of these were kind of like blowing my mind just like real crazy intricate

Play from 0:23:07 8:88:88 0:23:07 stuff but did you run that stuff and see if it worked yeah did you get some weird you got some cool stuff here let's see so this I just ran Global ah then we then we ran a different mood board then we ran these together right so this is just kind of showing you what happens to stacking versus running a mood board solo then I just kind of went and stacked one at a time I don't I like whenever it gets more than Global and like a mood board or two it just quickly becomes like well am I going to remember to run this you know this combination and then when am I going to use it you know and yada yada yada but um this is just to give you an example right just mood board to mood board with that same prompt what kind of

Play from 0:23:53 8:88:88 0:23:53 deviation you can get right that's a good run of it I like I like seeing all that now right and this is just the global profile one mood board same prompt o I like that one which one shape FX shape FX that's fun it's in the it's in the it's in the mood board thing goo I love this one I might throw this one in there I love the goo one man goo is goo is a killer I love Goo uh then Kaleidoscope motion these are starting to get pretty cool then I'm starting to stack motion and Kaleidoscope here's three different boards oh I got to get in there and just I got to get in there wild all of yours yeah look at this one that I don't know that's nothing and that's amazing at the

Play from 0:24:39 8:88:88 0:24:39 same time um I should probably not go down my DMT ones that I put in there yeah whoops and then then here's the Japanese mover poster so Global profile Global plus ccope global PR kaleidoscope and motion I think that's a good stack in mine Kaleidoscope is Motion Plus your P whoever's P I would say that's a good one I've run that enough to know that like you get some pretty cool results out of that like you can just see these are pretty awesome these are sick yeah I like this goo goo nice here's the goo that one of the one of the face with her is really that yeah got a really interesting texture on that I like that you got a little bit of a stack with goo and a couple others

Play from 0:25:26 8:88:88 0:25:26 interesting this is kind of cool love that I don't know then this all right d dude I don't know what it is about the text I've just been loving it just having like that small text that's unreadable you know well it kind of has that typography design element which is just so yeah it's satisfying to look at when it's structured and formatted those little face components over there on the left that one I like that yeah it's like a it's like a very unique very unique look goo you know so you know one one other thing with this maybe it's compelling to just keep rrolling some of these things that's definitely one way but this also gets into find me something that I kind of like and I'm going to very strong that mug so hard right because it's like I I'm gonna get some cool that comes

Play from 0:26:12 8:88:88 0:26:12 out of that that's like how you really can expand this some more hold on go back to that one specifically that one just hit just hit remix strong for me and don't change anything and just hit it again and just hit enter on that bang I've been really liking this on the that's random you know where there's no structured sort of outcome getting remix on top of something you already like tends to me get something like really cool but like look at these These are so these are so sick like all of them with like this interlocking deconstructed Parts yes like oh yeah these are fun now I have to go and run these actually individually instead of just bashing everything together yeah it's pretty awesome see what they look like yeah this stuff's so fun goo goo it's the name of the episode

Play from 0:26:58 8:88:88 0:26:58 love me some goo like these are sick like that looks like a I don't even know how to describe that yeah yeah this here's another Kaleidoscope in motion stack this one with the Japanese movie poster which is why I'm GNA have to make some content bashing our stuff together because yeah if anyone hasn't noticed I feel like we have a very very Drew and I have a very contrasting sort of aesthetic where Drew's super super like clean and beautiful and mine is just so like rough like raw in a sense and it's like this is so cool to mix together because I've found the mixing of both like I asked you every once in a while for his some of his personalization codes cuz I if I'm trying to use mine I TR need

Play from 0:27:44 8:88:88 0:27:44 something like very smooth and like soft and clean like my personalization codes just don't work cuz it's just never going to do it for me but I'm like I know you got I know you have some in there that are that are for that purpose you know and own but let's find let's find another thing we could run just randomly let's find some other like just interesting prompt maybe this is a good one let's run this so remember this was from last episode right uhuh when we went down that whole pathway of using the suggested prompt in edit right versus the other describe options that currently exist so maybe what I'll do for you is let me just copy and paste this into our chat and then that way you

Play from 0:28:29 8:88:88 0:28:29 can just grab it if I can can I do that boom let me drop this in here for you and then we'll just yeah we can run this and again you know we're going to get some crazy out of this but let's just run same thing let's see okay let's stack this with a couple things let's go through let's do Kaleidoscope let's do Kaleidoscope and motion let's do just motion let's do got to do goo got to do goo and let's I don't know if I have goo in there but I'll throw it in there in that premium mood board see big fan of Goo me too yeah we'll just do this one and then we'll run let's do one

Play from 0:29:14 8:88:88 0:29:14 more I hear [name] she was like yo you didn't put in this pod what are yall doing from the second floor y' thought you were going to get this pod in without me dude that's carrying that's definitely carrying then let's see let me let me pump this one all right I think I ran a bunch I'll just kind of and again dude I think we're at the point too where it's like I've got 40 or 50 of these things how am I going to even you know how you even keep track of what we're running here but um this yeah this will be interesting so this was that prompt and just for you that are for those that are following along but maybe having a tough time reading the actual prompt here I'll just read it out loud also you know feel free to pause this if you want to use it

Play from 0:30:01 8:88:88 0:30:01 a collage of three floating holographic rectangular shapes with iridescent edges each shape has an eye on it and is hovering above the headshot photo of an African-American man in street wear the background is a sky with clouds with a dreamy minimalistic aesthetic and negative space collage art in the style of Larry claw clor with a clean high res High detail and hyperrealistic appearance resembling an album cover nice by the way love album cover yeah good one you know like album covers always seem to work pretty well it's always been a good one although I would say lately it does actually feel like it's taking data from actual covers now whereas before it almost applied like a certain style to it like a vintage sort of like

Play from 0:30:47 8:88:88 0:30:47 photography with like some art baked in sort of effect right like that kind of you know I'm thinking like Jimmy Hendrick like are you experienced sort of like look you know yeah yeah that one remember that one very very tight that aesthetic I love that one all right let me see did you did you run your stuff all right I was I was sorry I was in yeah I'm just dragging through it right now and I and I I just looked and I didn't I didn't run it in the uh the aspect ratio I wanted and I didn't run it in the uh the stylize value that I wanted I would have run this probably again somewhere between three and six I probably would have changed this to a 34 or 23 but all right so this is interesting yeah the the ones that I ran now looking pretty pretty wild okay let me let me pass this over

Play from 0:31:34 8:88:88 0:31:34 to you yeah let's see I was like I didn't just blly pushing enter on changing these things but let's see so this is good I like to see how yours like how different yours are cuz this one is just Global profile right yeah so that and you know that looks different but similar yeah to mine right like this one relatively in the same space right y cuz then we have this atle which to me was a more like this muted color P palette with like a high saturation um you know sort of content and also like this Smoky blue and gray color scheme it's like cool like this is I like this a lot having this three-dimensional aspect of it here dig

Play from 0:32:21 8:88:88 0:32:21 that there's this one is the movie poster right now that starts to get crazy and extreme and add like a bunch of different effects to it which kind of dig this is wild however it conceptualized that I don't know how it conceptualizes some of this stuff this is a super like again super broad mood board that has a lot of different Aesthetics in it so again you get four different results here now now I'm I'm curious like I kind of mentioned this earlier but like if I find like an image so for me out of this little group personally I really like that top left top left yeah I'm I'm looking for one image that I can then push further right so so there's enough here that where it's like okay I

Play from 0:33:06 8:88:88 0:33:06 I would probably do a couple things probably very very subtle it very strong a couple times I would do I like that remix idea I I always forget to do that but um you know the go don't get lost in going too too far in too many directions that you forget to go deep enough in one and I think that's that's maybe the lesson I'm trying to convey here here is again it's all for fun but two like dig into things that you really like push it because that's how you go from the good to the great so this is my this is that negative one I'm talking about I just love that it like grabs these sort of yeah exposure effects and like it just has like a really cool tone to it that's why I say it's like a good mix mixing

Play from 0:33:51 8:88:88 0:33:51 one to like put in there I do have a collage mood board which is great for collages collage on collage that's right this one that eye super super important now this is that this is the Cenote where it's going to be way more dark and mysterious and like you know gritty textured that's nuts deep blacks yeah deep blacks deep blues deep greens this what I get me go into the bionic we're getting way that cool super cool getting way weird here this is the it's that like Cosmic one with the super gritty textures is the cosmic one is that the one with the black and white gray and then you've got the splash of neon in there yeah yeah this is like it's like '90s Miami color scheme right

Play from 0:34:37 8:88:88 0:34:37 here you know yeah do you remember the do you remember the restaurant Miami Grill is that was that a thing by you guys don't remember that being a thing looked like something out of like 1980s Miami but this is so again super fun right like this was the this was the remix strong on some of this stuff like just weird intricate hey and you know what if you if you're testing mood boards too um you know maybe an interesting thing to try as well whether you're doing this yourself or you're using RS or whatever it is Type in an empty character like a period or a slash and just run it yeah right and like just dig into what that default

Play from 0:35:22 8:88:88 0:35:22 is going to be you know and then that might give you a better sense of what to expect too I usually do that along with you know I try to think of of um the things that I'm going to create more most often which could be maybe photo realism based so maybe I'll throw in something very simple like editorial photo editorial photography lifestyle photography something like that and just kind of see where it takes me also the empty character stuff also do whatever the you want you know like going back to the Emoji thing when I was testing style because just running the skull emoji just run some you know I I still think the Emoji piece I I don't think a lot of people run that stuff but there's a lot of emojis out there I mean we could do a whole Ser you know we could do a whole thing just running Emojis with every single mood we got I was running it with a with the

Play from 0:36:10 8:88:88 0:36:10 fairy Emoji the other day which was funny I was getting like all mushrooms yeah yeah I don't know why why it equated like wild what is it like Fern Gully trained on stuff like that I was like why am I why am I running a ferry and it's coming up with mushrooms all the time and I just think I think I ran the hands emoji and the ferry together and that was it and I was like let's see what this let's see what goes on and and your survey data let's not forget that you know my survey data I get the we some really weird stuff guys like as you can see that was that's the PG stuff not the you know like with with the mood boards um I don't know man is there anything else that we haven't covered on mood boards you up until this point you know like I know like you've been going harder this week on mood

Play from 0:36:56 8:88:88 0:36:56 boards um like between last pod and this any new discoveries there or kind of like just continued iteration based on what we talked about last time because I feel like we went really deep I just don't know if you unlocked anything in the meantime I think it's just the the what I said earlier in the podcast was like creating these way way smaller mood boards like something that's not doesn't have to be 100 images something that's maybe like five images but for a specific use like that film negative one like to me that's my favorite little stackable piece now so if you're thinking in terms of that like Drew's goo that's a fun one probably very stackable with other ones I'm just textures textures run the textures like you could like I'm just thinking Photoshop you could run you could have a

Play from 0:37:42 8:88:88 0:37:42 mood board just with grunge check textures yeah and then that could be a stack very smart right like or textures film film grain yeah stack that yeah it's this all keeps coming back to that point of like Tech prompting is going to be text prompting is still important but also like it's like you're creating your own tokens now yeah like you're creating your own tokens with a mood there you go there you go I think that's a really good point also I I I think where AI is at you know and this is the case I think even for llms it's just like you know that the more context the the more you think and the more energy you put into the input the better the output the

Play from 0:38:27 8:88:88 0:38:27 problem is it's so labor intensive to do the typing and you'll get to a point where you're a I just want to send it I just want I just want to send it and so as AI develops the speaking part of it now there's got to be a modality that feels easier to execute on while matching the quality the expectation of the result and so whether that's speech or we get to this crazy place in life where it's telepathy or some other but like I feel like hping you know what I mean like the typing out thing is going to go away like in the next bit or maybe even just how we type because it's just such a energy-driven process and I know that sounds like kind of like heady but like it really is when you think about it

Play from 0:39:13 8:88:88 0:39:13 it's like yeah if I want llm to put together a strategy for me on X to get a good strategy I need to really think about this right I mean you know this is several prompts or it's like really me providing the most context possible and the same is true with prompting in some ways like for you need to know how to develop a strategy like you need to know how to develop a strategy to tell it to develop a strategy you know there you go there you go yeah you know what I mean so it's just yeah it'll be interesting to see how the text prompting to image Generation video generation thing continues to develop versus shortcuts within that process of references style codes mood boards you know some of these things that give it more information without requiring more

Play from 0:40:00 8:88:88 0:40:00 energy and time on our output you know I I would think it's perfectly put because you see what happened in the sort of the evolution of Midjourney right where it was just like you had to go that far on text prompting to either get consistency or you know mimic a style or a character or whatever yeah right and then they started adding these little features and it's the same thing you start to see on the video side too where it's like you know going back to the stuff like that I'm doing now with with Google VI too it's like I have to I have to like write every single little piece out of it I don't hate doing that it's just like it's really conscious you know you're really trying to right break it all out to make sure that it's all in there but again that's probably going to change with video as as soon as I saw Pika what

Play from 0:40:47 8:88:88 0:40:47 was it Pika today added add another thing like where you add like a you can add yourself or an ingredient into the mix not just like ingredients but like really here's a video add this thing in there to it now so it's like like a remix feature almost you know you're starting to see it with clinging is basically now I feel like starting to think in terms of how mid Journeys user experiences like with their ingredients feature and you can now just like here's a character here's an environment here's here's like an object like mash the whole idea together yeah masch the Aesthetics and the idea which to me is way cooler than trying to like write out this entire 16 you know 16 line prompt to get all that stuff in there it's yep I like writing the prompts don't get me wrong but it's but I mean we're still

Play from 0:41:33 8:88:88 0:41:33 yeah we're still at the uh you know the toddler kid age of how this is going to end up playing out like we're this is going to be an archaic version of whatever happens I mean it's getting continue to evolve and presumably get more efficient and so yeah it'll be interesting to see like I like I keep going back to that idea of these AI image gen tools why we're still you know like there needs to be an option to create a series of images within a certain concept for storytelling purposes meaning why do I have to create one single image at a time can I give an idea based on some sort of story or an idea and it gives me three connected images where those three images together

Play from 0:42:21 8:88:88 0:42:21 have cohesiveness in tell story like we do that you know like who's thinking about that cuz that that to me gets you there faster similar to like what Midjourney's editor did where it was like dude we're taking out five steps of the process of having to pan and zoom and do you know I think he's developed a product right there you know might have to go on you ChatGPT or Claude later see if that can be built with a you know right as an API into the mix we're almost getting there man where I think we we'll just create some but all all that like being said let's maybe just jump in quickly to office hours and yeah there's not a lot I don't think to update you guys on versus what we talked about last week because we did cover it the latest update still I think V7 I would expect end of month maybe

Play from 0:43:07 8:88:88 0:43:07 even into March depending on if we see any other curveballs but like three weeks away would be my guess three four weeks but the video stuff right so going back to your point about vo you know being on office hours I know you caught this too because we were chatting beforehand but you know it seemed like David originally was thinking 2026 year of the video and he made a great point about how yes you can do video now but it's labor intensive it's not fun it's not all the way passible for you know certain use cases yada y yada we all knew video was going to move fast it's continued to move fast 2025 can we break the physics mold of like getting natural looking movements together right like that's probably one of the last Frontiers that I would say exist on that

Play from 0:43:53 8:88:88 0:43:53 front and then you and I were just talking about vo and you sent me some stuff that you put together and I saw something that was one of those moments where I was like yeah haven't seen that before haven't seen that yet you know and so with that said like David brought that up on the office hours too he used vo's example just like look like I saw some there and I think I've changed my mind I think we're gonna you know I think we're it's G to be this year right where we're going to see that sort of like breaking of the damn with video and specifically as it relates to the photo realism physics movement so it's definitely it's definitely going to happen I don't know what Midjourney is going to do about it I don't know if they even have to do anything about it honestly like it there's I think it did

Play from 0:44:39 8:88:88 0:44:39 I read I was maybe I was reading someone on X who wrote a thread um that I was like there's there's internal sort of Stripes mour was on the off hours yeah okay where it's like do we just focus on images do we go to video you know like I don't the thing is I don't need video for Midjourney I I want I want to try it I want to use it if they're the only ones that can figure out how to do it in a way like them where there's style lies and Chaos like the type of parameters that like controls that you can't do with other ones like I would love like a very subtle on a video or a very strong you know like yes I'm thinking about all the Midjourney controls in comparison to video s not to take us off track I was messing around with Luma and and lum's got some cool stuff with video 2 but still no

Play from 0:45:24 8:88:88 0:45:24 roll why I think it's some way someone was showing me the other day and I was like I the fact that I have to look this this hard for it that's what I'm yeah exactly cuz I literally was just auditing every button and icon I could find I'm like dude there's no roll here what are we doing I got to copy and paste this and then put two key Fram you know like every single time I'm it's just simple things guys like I don't need anyway need a lot that's just like offshoot little tangent but I think you're right like I I wonder too I wonder you know we're we're still at that point where some of these companies really have to define the path forward for themselves and what they're going to be we talked about that with Korea they've done that you kind of just mentioned like cing is is starting to maybe show some of that Midjourney's shown kind of that they've been unique

Play from 0:46:11 8:88:88 0:46:11 and thinking things differently for a long time but yeah if you're Midjourney what do you do you know you're cherry pick like I don't know if you're going to develop it which it sounds like they're going to partner which I don't know how that works or I can't potentially dream up how that looks yeah but it's like I would cherry pick stuff like the thing that I love about Sora is uh either one like clipping in between like a CLI like if you have like a 10-second clip and seconds two to four suck like you can just go regenerate that piece I like that you know that's nice y the remix feature like change this great that's awesome you know cling I like elements now I also like how coherent it is Runway I like certain things there it's like you have all these ideas you know they're all out there because everyone's doing it differently um you know the way that people are doing camera control is very

Play from 0:46:58 8:88:88 0:46:58 different on every platform you know like everyone cing and Luma do it or Minx and Luma do it different than cing and Runway right and then there's all these certain sort of like intricacies with each with each tool and like these little features that they have it doesn't feel like anyone's really defined a niche in terms of what they want to be outside of Pika I think like P's just deci I feel like P is just deciding they want to be like the social media tool like they want to be that you know Sora obviously don't know what the hell they're trying to do doesn't make any sense like Runway to me is like a production team tool they have a lot of different features in there for editors you know and people that are in like highend production you can see it the way they've built it and the video editors in there and things like that and for creators right cling I don't

Play from 0:47:44 8:88:88 0:47:44 know they just keep adding features and it's like you can use the virtual Tryon and the elements it's just like maybe they're trying to just be the all-in-one tool and then you have you know Mini Max Just a Little Engine That Could that's just hilarious in terms of its output which is either really good really oddd really funny or just you know super super creative so who knows where they all sort of go and then you have Kaa who links all of them and you can use it yeah just pay us and we'll we'll let you have all of them you know did you see what they did recently with their chat feature I think they just released it today again I commented on on their post the other day about something I was like you guys just get it it's awesome they basically they basically just took the dolly 3 sort of model like within ChatGPT and just flipped it on its head

Play from 0:48:30 8:88:88 0:48:30 where it's like here like I like like let's create an image for this you know you're chatting with it instead of like prompting okay I was like oh I like I like this change it you know you paste an image put it to this style cool okay now change the cloes to this like you can it's like interactive that way it's such such a smarter way I think of getting new people on a platform oh this is way more user friendly to me instead of having to come up with 75 words prompted you know and then also how much education are you going to do with the tool itself there you know like you're going to continue to unlock all these things I mean we could I mean you and I have put together whole courses and guides on Midjourney and like I'm sure you think about this too but it's

Play from 0:49:16 8:88:88 0:49:16 like I can think of a dozen ideas that aren't in there that I could throw in there and it's just like well I got to cut it off somewhere what are we doing if you're these companies like how do you educate somebody on all this stuff at some point it just becomes so much it becomes so much to do and you know like we always go back to that example of like Midjourney filing like a Photoshop they don't make everything the easiest from a ux standpoint and I'm okay with that because we've been there but if you're not like again going back to maybe how we started this call I'm just so surprised at some of the things that have been introduced a while back that still aren't known you know you know like I was here another example just going into editor and the whole idea of like removing distractions but but more or less changing things changing the clothes I've got a picture of me I want

Play from 0:50:01 8:88:88 0:50:01 to change this to a black T-shirt instead of a you know off-white sweater a lot of people don't know that you know a lot of people don't know that I mean you could go down that Avenue of you've got a nice face that you like you know nice composition that you like just changing the clothes right like there's lot of use cases for that no one you know but no one's talking about anymore so after time all this kind of like depreciates yeah in terms of like um I guess I don't know the word I'm looking for but like it just it just Fades you know which is a shame and so I I guess like when these companies are so focused on Feature Feature ship ship ship how do you maintain that level of foundational knowledge and get people to adopt this product the right way to

Play from 0:50:47 8:88:88 0:50:47 fully be able to succeed with it which at the end of the day from a business standpoint you want people to feel like they're successful with tool that going to give you the stickiness of a customer maybe this is just how you and I think CU we've been in that like bus world too but that's got to be on the radar as well you have to be thinking about that if you're one of these businesses is how do we keep bringing people along and in a lot of ways they've just been relying on the creators to do that that's not a centralized place for it so how do you continue to well the thing with something like Midjourney right is you type in if you're a beginner regardless the first time you go into the prompt bar and type in dog you're going to get something good you know like it's not might not be consistent or whatever you type it in it's just going to look good and you're like that's cool cuz that

Play from 0:51:33 8:88:88 0:51:33 might not happen on flux or anything it might come out like a you know like a saturated AI looking Dolly 3 picture and you're like that's not a wow factor so you know I've always found that to be like can you get someone interested quickly because the more you get them like same thing with us like with V4 everything just looked cool to begin with so there wasn't much expectation there cuz we weren't seeing everything else that everyone was doing it was like oh let just explore and then you keep keep going like I can get better at this can I do this can I do this and like the whole thing starts to build and you're addicted but now I think everyone's seen so much ridiculous artwork if you're new you're coming on you're like you type in a prompt and it doesn't look that way it's very easy to be like you know oh yes yes yeah very see it on the video

Play from 0:52:20 8:88:88 0:52:20 generators all the time I saw a post the other day someone was complaining that you know this is hilarious that this stuff you know they did they tried to do gymnastics or something or like Olympic sports yeah yeah yeah I'm like number one there's a reason why there's only like 10 people in the world that can do that in general physically because it's really hard so it's hard for these AI generates do anything sports related cu no two bodies move the same in that way you pick the hardest thing to do you know what I mean like that's it's not that's not a reflection on what the tools can or can do right now that's the hardest thing there is like at this moment personally in my experience Sports I don't think anyone ve2 really bad with basketball like

Play from 0:53:05 8:88:88 0:53:05 still can't get it yeah basketball and basketball gymnastics and it's impossible to train yeah it's going to be real hard yeah yeah yeah you can't replicate it cuz there's no two plays that are exactly the same no motion is exactly the same everyone's body shapes are different and that's that's why it's that's why hands are so hard yeah hands do really weird things and when you get photos of hands you're not getting the same photo of a hand right like you're getting a a hand in a 360 you're getting a hand up here there down low right in from the side like every camera angle you can imagine and no two hands look alike and also by the way hands move right so it's just a hard thing to crack and so people are hand going to get yeah well hands are pretty damn good already you know what I mean like I'm actually

Play from 0:53:51 8:88:88 0:53:51 surprised hands have been that good for as long as they've been you know like we could be talking about hands still right now and then these model would be pretty much unusable in some ways I like to tell people to go if you have complaints about the hands try to go draw one got to go try to draw a hand or some eyes it's it's hard hand that's so hard like I remember when I was doing I was on a drawing kick for a while and they there's a there's a there's also the idea too that your mind has a hard time interpreting what a right hand like what what a correct hand should look like it's it's so Dynamic right and it's not symmetrical right like there are just so many variables at play there but yeah absolutely that and then the other thing too with that is like it's very it's just I don't understand sort of like

Play from 0:54:38 8:88:88 0:54:38 this whole mindset of it sucks right now like still will never understand that it's like yeah sure then don't then don't learn it you know what I mean it's your choice just don't complain about it when it gets good you know like well and I think people are what creators are really good at is just like trying to push the the boundaries too like you're always trying to do something new and different there are plenty of loow hanging fruit use cases that could be put into effect immediately right now but those aren't sexy to keep posting about over and over again people are trying to share the linear progression of what these tools are capable of yeah and so yeah you might see some things depending on who who it is too right where you're just like H you know but uh

Play from 0:55:26 8:88:88 0:55:26 all the right people you'll see some cool yeah that's what you know it's like I saw a bunch of comments on that post too that were just like I can tell you don't use these tools at all cuz you don't you don't know that that's even an option right like that we we know cuz we try and I've tried and I've tried fly fishing which I did a video on which I you know that's that's something that no AI tool has been able to do because the physics is really complex in terms of interaction between person object you know physical like it's a very fluid sort of physical motion to cast a fly rod and then you also have the elemental effects of someone standing inside a body of water so it's a lot of things going on now like to get that even close and look it's such a step above any

Play from 0:56:12 8:88:88 0:56:12 other you know ve and or vo ve whatever the hell it's called and over the other tools not saying the other tools are bad just in this specific use case for something that's very complex was like impressive but then again anyone who's going to be like yeah it's just like ripped off photo like photo or uh you know images from the Internet or video from the internet I'm like well type in fly fishing hit enter and watch watch how awful it is in terms of the generation you know I had to go in there and prompt like I was thinking in my head of how my body would move like you know how it would my arm snapping at 10:00 and 2:00 in terms of like if it was on a clock like the way we brought that up before too it's like when you get down into the motion or physics part of movements you need to think mechanically about how you describe them

Play from 0:56:57 8:88:88 0:56:57 yeah like the the the tension of the line pulling back against the rod creating a curve like I know that cuz I've made 100,000 casts before in my life like I know that you have to have tension on the rod physically for to like to snap it and whip it back forward someone who's never done that before is not going to be able to do that prompt they're not going to like comprehend that chat gbt is not going to tell them that you know but like Google interpreted it because it's probably you know been trained in a certain way to to interpret certain things like that but I'm also looking for for to this you know Midjourney mooving the camera thing dude we've been talking about that forever but that is going to probably be the most exciting thing um that's happened in a long time whenever that happens too um I'm more excited for that I think than video maybe you know what

Play from 0:57:44 8:88:88 0:57:44 yeah yeah I think so I think so um also I was gonna ask you we we should come back to chat gbt llm integration some point yeah into the creative workflow again I think we hit on a lot but it's been some time I know I've unlocked a few different ways since then I'm sure you have we're using this stuff every day yeah so I would expect that to be the case but like perfect example right I've been doing a lot more well I've done a couple like more of these photos with the pron nuns right like putting that into to focus but like I'm also taking this type of stuff into and this is like a mid like a halfway through this photo but like I'll take this as a screenshot put that into chat

Play from 0:58:30 8:88:88 0:58:30 TBT I'm this is my theme right how can I make this even more ridiculous uh and then like also take advantage of design principles and with photography effects textures blah blah blah what recommendations would you have okay well if I don't know how to do that in Photoshop give me the step-by-step instructions on how I do it in phot I'm not an expert at Photoshop I I'm I'm dangerous with Photoshop I don't know all the I I'm not an advanced user in Photoshop so I'll hear something and I be like okay well give me the step by step I have a tach all the time troubleshooting in directions and you know instructions and and those things have been great for me lately I don't think that was something I was using llms a lot for in the first year that I was using them but like I would say

Play from 0:59:16 8:88:88 0:59:16 that's probably 50% of what I'm doing now is the how-to stuff right like totally so you know like I just bring that up as like a nice little throw in here of like different ways you can think about using creative elements I wish I really wish it could start to interpret the video stuff now like if it could look at a clip right um and just sort of like okay or you know give you the transcript stuff like what are we doing that that should already be possible by now I mean you can do it with the plugins but come on um also yeah I mean it's just there these are the these are the cool things that I think um make a ton of sense to think about also in in terms of your your creative workflow and process like I always use an llm in some manner I don't

Play from 1:00:01 8:88:88 1:00:01 think I was at the beginning uhuh now it just you know like there just so many reasons to do it why not yeah I mean it has the reasoning too now like 03 mini is pretty freaking cool now that I've tried that I still love claw I still love perplexity but perplexity is like my my learning tutorial like I love it you pay for that oh yeah I bought the I bought the I don't I don't have I got the year during Black Friday cuz it was a sick deal like what's the benefit of is not paying um what do you do what does it give you I don't I don't even remember but because I just use perplexity for the basics uh search I don't use it for anything else I like it I just have never spent the time understanding the full offering for perplexity but like the search part of it great I forget what I what I paid for

Play from 1:00:46 8:88:88 1:00:46 in terms of the year because it was oh you can from a from a writing standpoint if you want to write basically utilizing the all the open source models you can write with so you can choose which one um you know in terms of like your answer so you use llama you can use claw you can use chat gbt you can use whatever I basically probably don't use it at the level that I should for paying for it for the year but I just you know whenever I see a Black Friday deal I'm a sucker and especially if it's like 40% off for the year I'm like well I'm already paid for it so I might as well but I love that thing is like my tutorial space because it also I love you know combines everything but then you also have the links out to each individual video that it's pulling from so and I can like oh okay I kind of see what it's saying but I need to see it and then it takes me right to you know YouTube great okay this is where it is

Play from 1:01:33 8:88:88 1:01:33 and it has it like earmarked in the video so it takes you right to the spot which I F just love simple things like that that's that okay that's a gripe I have currently chat gbt you can use the search bar to find old topics or chats by keyword great it'll bring me to the thread the problem is my threads will be so long and it doesn't it doesn't smart it doesn't anchor it so you're like okay now I got to contr F to find this you know like within it it's just kind of a mess but they need to operator do that for you I don't know cuz I'm not paying that oh is that only on is that only on Plus or premium or whatever the hell the top plan is um whatever the top one is a camera if it's Pro or Plus or what but whatever they you know they screwed that

Play from 1:02:19 8:88:88 1:02:19 up with Sora I bet that you don't see anything really about Sora like at this point it's got game I was going to say do you want to um do you want to tease anybody that we might potentially have on in the future here I think what we're going to try to do is we've got a couple weeks here until V7 we want to do definitely do a deep dive there but prior to that I I'm expecting maybe some slower things we've gone really hard on on mood board so I think what we're going to do is possibly bring on some guests and then get some other perspectives in here tell some different stories get into you know a wider range of topics anything we can share do we have anything lined up don't have anyone specifically Ally locked in yet talking to some people from 11 Labs so maybe you might have someone if you guys aren't familiar with 11 Labs the you know the

Play from 1:03:04 8:88:88 1:03:04 the sound generation voice generator tool super super awesome really cool team you know they've been interested in coming on talking uh you know talk and Shop a little bit maybe some people from the Curious Refuge team trying to come on here you know we we love what they do they do outstanding work and they were really early in on a lot of this stuff so you know there there's a lot we have a few we have a lot of Sation the community is awesome so once people like you know once people come on here we've had some great episodes with you know the guests in the past just to they everyone sort of like vouches that it's like just a fun time to come on here you know hopefully if you guys have anyone else else you're interested in too let us know there go specific um CU we have a lot of people just sort of like we get lazy in terms of scheduling them it's

Play from 1:03:51 8:88:88 1:03:51 like sometimes it's hard if if this were like our job I feel like this we would have so much we would just so hard on this this is like guys honestly thanks for sticking with us I mean we we try to provide as much value as we can here the reality is we've all we've both got so much going on so unfortunately this falls down the priority line but that said I'm excited about what we're going to continue to bring into this because once we start talking V7 once we start talking video once we start talking 3D I mean we're going to open the floodgates again in terms of the possibilities how to use these things the features blah blah blah blah blah so so um do some live sessions probably for at that point or like littleit little bit more excitement around it because you know

Play from 1:04:37 8:88:88 1:04:37 like I said last week I think Drew and I are probably going to be like me when it's released and give us two weeks and they'll be like damn this is sick you know figure out how to how to manipulate it properly yeah 100% uh but is that yeah man I I think that's it like before before I give you the uh I'll let you do the honors I would just say guys we'll we'll drop pay attention to Social Links for the mood board stuff I'll probably drop it on X and Linkedin although I'm not sure when uh I haven't been posting as much often I maybe even keep it closer watch on Rory stuff um but we'll have that we'll put that out in the wild this coming week for you guys and would love to get your guys feedback on it we're we're down to continue to make changes

Play from 1:05:23 8:88:88 1:05:23 with that I think one of the things that we talked about is continuing to add some of those mood boards so if you if this is something that you guys want to grab like we'll continue to put value in there even after the fact yeah I'm G to keep pumping those because it's too much fun seriously yeah can't I can't stop do uh Take the Wheel as always as is tradition like yeah it is subscribe that's it three things two things maybe comment maybe tell your friend tell your mom tell your dad whatever we're here yeah y keep going let's keep going and yeah we'll uh we'll see you guys in the next one thanks for joining us see you